08-26-2009, 04:30 AM
I apologize for my late response, there are some things in my personal life that I am trying to handle but it takes time and effort.
I will attempt to clarify myself on 2 positions here, firstly how working towards a unified polarization can lead to pitfalls if one isn’t exceptionally careful and secondly how such a polarization and polarization in general should, as far as I see, be achieved.
As I said, the idea of a completely STO polarized harvest is possible and while there is nothing inherently dangerous about a completely STO harvest in its own there are risk when one tries to accomplish it. If we look at this question from the point of view of the universe, as we understand it as explained by Ra. As a self aware entity attempting to understand itself better and applying the principle of polarization to generate force towards understanding. Granted my understanding of it is rather novel and I am unsure if these are the precise words used.
It brings to mind the magnet, one end positively polarized will always bring another end negatively polarized and a negative polarization will bring about a positive polarization and vice versa. Thusly all actions aimed towards polarization in general would, in some form bring about polarization of the opposite as well, perhaps in ways subtle beyond our ability to observe. From this it would be possible to surmise that given the universes apparent preference for the generation of force through the medium of polarization that which polarization is chosen is in itself not of value from the point of view of the universe. The next perception or observance from this vision is that what matters is the polarization of the individual in accordance with the desire of that individual and progress along the path. If an individual’s desire is for an STS polarization certainly their polarization and desire can be changed by encasing them in a situation where the STS polarization no longer offers them the best possibility for individual gain. Just as an entity polarized towards the STO can be made to change their polarization by encasing them in a situation of sheer darkness where an STO polarized entity is unable to act. The latter scenario was described in the Ra material when Laura attempted to communicate with Ra alone instead of the support group.
A change in polarization is easy to do, both willingly and as a vessel of another entity’s will, or in other words, forced conversion. While there are no ethical problems from the point of view of the universe in regard to forced conversion there is, however, a question of if it is a matter for an STO organized entity. Or, to phrase it into an age old question, does the end justify the means, and if so, what then separates our actions from the actions of others. Is the only qualifier that separates the STO actions from the STS actions the love of others? Can then an STS entity that loves the self more than others simply withdraw to a corner of the universe, never bothering another entity simply seeing quiet solitude as the best, if painfully slow, way to accomplish its aim be morally more reprehensible than a crusader who, in faith that their end is justified destroys worlds and forces conversion. Or to put it in another way, can you kill someone for love or can you love yourself and thus refuse kill.
This relates to my original point in several ways, working towards unified anything will invariably include working with other people. Other people almost invariably have different opinions on how to act and what is the proper action, this is, I believe, the task of the late 3rd early and mid 4th, to organize into larger wholes and work towards a shared goal. This is precisely the reason why polarization was invented, according to Ra. So that larger wholes can form and work towards shared goals and as a larger whole cannot form or hold if it contains the opposite polarization without losing significant polarization and force on its own polarizations tend to repel or reject each other. STO through not accepting the STS vision being offered and the STS through not being able to control others. Due to the inherent organizational abilities of each polarization structures and organizations tend to form in both camps in the 4th density. This as I said, requires both polarizations to be separate from one another and progress is directed more at improving the self or the group most associated with the self due to the very virtue of being separate entities.
Now, as to the core of the issue, as Ra said when referencing the atlanteans. Their fall came when they spent their time focusing on the improvement of their surroundings and other organisms rather than on their self evolution. This is one of the main pitfalls, that focus is drawn to those that want a different polarization and trying to get them to agree with our polarization when their polarization is inherently as good as ours is. While it is of course possible to get an STS polarized entity to change sides, both by the use of forced conversion or by simply enough interactions this is not, on its own, of benefit to the universe if polarization in itself and through that force is the goal of the universe. A more beneficial goal might be the desire for all to graduate and polarize and of those the highest possible amount being of STO polarization. This in itself is also of little meaning.
As I see it, it is correct that the idea of working towards a full planetary polarization of STO nature will lessen the load in the long term and aid the harvest. If it aids the harvest towards STO or STS is what I am bringing to the topic.
"May all those who wish to polarize, polarize"
"To all those souls willing and able to hear, if you wish to polarize towards STO and are working towards polarizing into STO may your path lead you to me if it benefits us both so that we may both polarize more towards STO."
And the final one for the not faint of heart:
"To all those souls willing and able to hear, if you wish to polarize towards STS and are working towards polarizing into STS may your path lead you away from me if it benefits us both so that we may both polarize more towards our desires."
It is possible to gain a planetary polarization event fully into the STO, this does however require all STS polarized souls to either convert or leave, as most will likely not be enough polarized to make the conversion most or at least a large enough percentage will have to leave. Polarizing strongly enough towards STO on a large enough basis will shove the STS polarized organisms off the planet as they no longer stand to gain polarization in a non receptive environment, this would however require termination of their physical body's before graduation as without this a slight STS polarization would stay present while graduating into the 4thD and from there remove itself to another world as both the STS and STO would.
A totally STO polarized harvest requires those of the STS physical body to either convert or die and move elsewhere. This is the culmination of the STO work towards unifying a single planet where dissident voices would remain. As this situation would require all 3rdD souls to have chosen either STO or STS and graduated to the 4th before no more potential for 3rd D willing conversion remains and only possibility to increase their spheres of influence would be to take it from the other side. In this situation I posit that if the STS organized memory complex would refuse to leave the STO would. The STO side would know that there are no more souls willing to convert to the STO side and due to that any work remaining there would involve forcing the STS to convert and as this is not the STO way the STO would leave.
In the end I posit this:
Work towards the largest possible polarization towards STO but never a complete polarization. Always leave room for those who wish to have that which is not for you. Never force, never infringe and always love. Love those who chose as you do and love those who chose as you don’t. Experience is what we aim for, polarization is the means towards an end and I love my polarization and wish to continue in it and I love the opposite polarization but wish no part of it. Always help those who ask for help when the act of helping causes less harm to the polarization than is gained. One step forward and two steps back is still just one step back.
I'm hopeful this helps everyone understand my meaning a little better.
I will attempt to clarify myself on 2 positions here, firstly how working towards a unified polarization can lead to pitfalls if one isn’t exceptionally careful and secondly how such a polarization and polarization in general should, as far as I see, be achieved.
As I said, the idea of a completely STO polarized harvest is possible and while there is nothing inherently dangerous about a completely STO harvest in its own there are risk when one tries to accomplish it. If we look at this question from the point of view of the universe, as we understand it as explained by Ra. As a self aware entity attempting to understand itself better and applying the principle of polarization to generate force towards understanding. Granted my understanding of it is rather novel and I am unsure if these are the precise words used.
It brings to mind the magnet, one end positively polarized will always bring another end negatively polarized and a negative polarization will bring about a positive polarization and vice versa. Thusly all actions aimed towards polarization in general would, in some form bring about polarization of the opposite as well, perhaps in ways subtle beyond our ability to observe. From this it would be possible to surmise that given the universes apparent preference for the generation of force through the medium of polarization that which polarization is chosen is in itself not of value from the point of view of the universe. The next perception or observance from this vision is that what matters is the polarization of the individual in accordance with the desire of that individual and progress along the path. If an individual’s desire is for an STS polarization certainly their polarization and desire can be changed by encasing them in a situation where the STS polarization no longer offers them the best possibility for individual gain. Just as an entity polarized towards the STO can be made to change their polarization by encasing them in a situation of sheer darkness where an STO polarized entity is unable to act. The latter scenario was described in the Ra material when Laura attempted to communicate with Ra alone instead of the support group.
A change in polarization is easy to do, both willingly and as a vessel of another entity’s will, or in other words, forced conversion. While there are no ethical problems from the point of view of the universe in regard to forced conversion there is, however, a question of if it is a matter for an STO organized entity. Or, to phrase it into an age old question, does the end justify the means, and if so, what then separates our actions from the actions of others. Is the only qualifier that separates the STO actions from the STS actions the love of others? Can then an STS entity that loves the self more than others simply withdraw to a corner of the universe, never bothering another entity simply seeing quiet solitude as the best, if painfully slow, way to accomplish its aim be morally more reprehensible than a crusader who, in faith that their end is justified destroys worlds and forces conversion. Or to put it in another way, can you kill someone for love or can you love yourself and thus refuse kill.
This relates to my original point in several ways, working towards unified anything will invariably include working with other people. Other people almost invariably have different opinions on how to act and what is the proper action, this is, I believe, the task of the late 3rd early and mid 4th, to organize into larger wholes and work towards a shared goal. This is precisely the reason why polarization was invented, according to Ra. So that larger wholes can form and work towards shared goals and as a larger whole cannot form or hold if it contains the opposite polarization without losing significant polarization and force on its own polarizations tend to repel or reject each other. STO through not accepting the STS vision being offered and the STS through not being able to control others. Due to the inherent organizational abilities of each polarization structures and organizations tend to form in both camps in the 4th density. This as I said, requires both polarizations to be separate from one another and progress is directed more at improving the self or the group most associated with the self due to the very virtue of being separate entities.
Now, as to the core of the issue, as Ra said when referencing the atlanteans. Their fall came when they spent their time focusing on the improvement of their surroundings and other organisms rather than on their self evolution. This is one of the main pitfalls, that focus is drawn to those that want a different polarization and trying to get them to agree with our polarization when their polarization is inherently as good as ours is. While it is of course possible to get an STS polarized entity to change sides, both by the use of forced conversion or by simply enough interactions this is not, on its own, of benefit to the universe if polarization in itself and through that force is the goal of the universe. A more beneficial goal might be the desire for all to graduate and polarize and of those the highest possible amount being of STO polarization. This in itself is also of little meaning.
As I see it, it is correct that the idea of working towards a full planetary polarization of STO nature will lessen the load in the long term and aid the harvest. If it aids the harvest towards STO or STS is what I am bringing to the topic.
"May all those who wish to polarize, polarize"
"To all those souls willing and able to hear, if you wish to polarize towards STO and are working towards polarizing into STO may your path lead you to me if it benefits us both so that we may both polarize more towards STO."
And the final one for the not faint of heart:
"To all those souls willing and able to hear, if you wish to polarize towards STS and are working towards polarizing into STS may your path lead you away from me if it benefits us both so that we may both polarize more towards our desires."
It is possible to gain a planetary polarization event fully into the STO, this does however require all STS polarized souls to either convert or leave, as most will likely not be enough polarized to make the conversion most or at least a large enough percentage will have to leave. Polarizing strongly enough towards STO on a large enough basis will shove the STS polarized organisms off the planet as they no longer stand to gain polarization in a non receptive environment, this would however require termination of their physical body's before graduation as without this a slight STS polarization would stay present while graduating into the 4thD and from there remove itself to another world as both the STS and STO would.
A totally STO polarized harvest requires those of the STS physical body to either convert or die and move elsewhere. This is the culmination of the STO work towards unifying a single planet where dissident voices would remain. As this situation would require all 3rdD souls to have chosen either STO or STS and graduated to the 4th before no more potential for 3rd D willing conversion remains and only possibility to increase their spheres of influence would be to take it from the other side. In this situation I posit that if the STS organized memory complex would refuse to leave the STO would. The STO side would know that there are no more souls willing to convert to the STO side and due to that any work remaining there would involve forcing the STS to convert and as this is not the STO way the STO would leave.
In the end I posit this:
Work towards the largest possible polarization towards STO but never a complete polarization. Always leave room for those who wish to have that which is not for you. Never force, never infringe and always love. Love those who chose as you do and love those who chose as you don’t. Experience is what we aim for, polarization is the means towards an end and I love my polarization and wish to continue in it and I love the opposite polarization but wish no part of it. Always help those who ask for help when the act of helping causes less harm to the polarization than is gained. One step forward and two steps back is still just one step back.
I'm hopeful this helps everyone understand my meaning a little better.