08-14-2011, 11:16 PM
(08-14-2011, 10:47 AM)3DMonkey Wrote:Those that attribute some reclaimed knowledge or experience as being due to seeing behind the veil.(08-14-2011, 09:31 AM)zenmaster Wrote:I don't know what would be an example of, as you say, "those that penetrate".(08-14-2011, 02:52 AM)Azrael Wrote: The veil is the illusion of linearity. The veil is the illusion of separation. To penetrate the veil means to no longer be bound by time, no longer be bound by a singular sequence but to realize the simultineity of all existences. To penetrate the veil means to move in to the 4th dimension, to become a part of time itself. Not only is the veil now being penetrated by many, but once a certain percentage all have pierced the veil it becomes unviable, and disperses. This is the harvest we now face.I sort of agree with this, in the sense that the products of a linear mindset tends to reinforce the illusion (in a feedback loop). But as we know, the historical and mechanical understandings or memories are not part of the penetration, due to memory-recall problems and presumably the logos not thinking those aspects were important to evolution. However, that does not seem to stop those that 'penetrate' from falsely attributing these 'memories' to historical events and or mechanical principles.
(08-14-2011, 10:47 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: I don't know what you mean by "falsely attributing memories to mechanical principles."There are different types of memories (procedural, declarative, etc.) or types of knowing or personal insight. What is perceived as being 'behind the veil' is often falsely depicted as if it were the same as a historical account, when in fact it is a dream or allegory that is forced into a historical context (and therefore necessarily in a grossly distorted form for that purpose). When I say 'mechanical', I am referring to the linear mindset that is our bodily and racial-mind inheritance and part of the veiling. What the logos 'saves' between 'personality shells' is the important biases and deeper concepts.
"30.4 Questioner: Is there any loss to the mind or spirit after this transition which we call death or any impairment of either because of the loss of this chemical body which we now have?
Ra: I am Ra. In your terms there is a great loss of mind complex due to the fact that much of the activity of the mental nature of which you are aware during the experience of this space/time continuum is as much of a surface illusion as is the chemical body complex.
In other terms nothing whatever of importance is lost; the character or, shall we say, pure distortion of emotions and biases or distortions and wisdoms, if you will, becoming obvious for the first time, shall we say; these pure emotions and wisdoms and bias/distortions being, for the most part, either ignored or underestimated during physical life experience.
In terms of the spiritual, this channel is then much opened due to the lack of necessity for the forgetting characteristic of third density."
"Since the concepts of space/time, or physics, and time/space, or metaphysics, are mechanical they are not central to the spiritual evolution of the mind/body/spirit complex. The study of love and light is far more productive in its motion towards unity in those entities pondering such concepts. However, this material is, shall we say, of some small interest and is harmless."