Science of Ascension

[3DMonkey]

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if you can be so stifled by the veil that you become powerless, that's not true.

It's laziness that stifles and leads to powerlessness. The veil is there is provide more compelling catalyst, which promotes polarization if one bothers to smell the coffee.

I don't believe this is true. It would be like saying the only thing preventing me from entering PGA Tour is practice. Simply not true. We ate not created equal and that goes for the veil, chakra activation, etc.

No, the analogy is not appropriate. To be clear, polarization has nothing to do with skill or technique, or any kind of particular practice. It's merely the use of the will towards what you desire to have unfold, where that desire is consonant with the plan of the logos. Here, the closest word to that non-circumstantial condition is 'love'.

Perhaps I misunderstood Ocean.... or one of us did...

To your point though, if it is not skill, technique, or practice, then how can laziness be a factor? I did read your first quote to imply skill, technique, and practice, so that was confusing for me.

Again, I really listen intently to what you have to say, zenmaster, but we do seem to have a difference on one point (I can't find a label for that point..) and my view is that nothing has to be done with the knowledge that you display (well, I might add). I think that it comes right back around, full circle, to just being the same way you were before you were 'aware.'