08-05-2011, 12:04 AM
(08-04-2011, 06:50 PM)Lorna Wrote: monica i know type 2 diabetes is on the rise and i know it has very clear links with lifestyle factors, but that wasn't what you said - you implied childhood cancer and diabetes was so rare as to be almost unheard of decades ago
They were very rare, compared to the rate we see today. Had you ever heard of a teenager having a heart attack, until a couple of decades ago? How about babies being born with cancer?
(08-04-2011, 06:50 PM)Lorna Wrote: - they weren't, but they were very, very often misdiagnosed or undiagnosed.
That's not what the statistics say, as evidenced by the news report I posted.
(08-04-2011, 06:50 PM)Lorna Wrote: what makes me uncomfortable i guess is that for people impacted upon by these sorts of conditions your words, to me, sound as though they lack compassion.
Wow. That saddens me, to be so misunderstood.
It is precisely because of compassion that I do what I do. I work all day helping people find alternative healing. I hear the horror stories of how the chemo didn't work, the drugs didn't work...and they or their loved ones lie dying, desperately searching for answers. I witness, on a daily basis, these people find healing, and then they go out shouting from the rooftops. I witness their indignation that no one told them sooner. I witness their grief when they find solutions, too little too late.
It is because of compassion that I strive to expose the corruption and let people know that there are alternatives available, so they can choose.
CANCER is curable NOW
(08-04-2011, 06:50 PM)Lorna Wrote: but i know you are a very compassionate person which is why the statements above jar with me
Which statements? Please clarify, because I have no clue what you're referring to. How is stating that our modern lifestyle has resulted in greater numbers of chronic diseases, uncompassionate and jarring?
(08-04-2011, 06:50 PM)Lorna Wrote: i also believe that the increases in many illnesses, chronic conditions, suffering may also be linked to the oncoming harvest,
Of course. I agreed with you, in my last post, that there are always spiritual reasons for physical catalyst.
But are you saying that you disagree with me, that we should still try to awaken people about physical causes? Or should we just watch them suffer, because, after all, it's their catalyst? That, to me, sounds uncompassionate. That is the very reason for catalyst - to evoke compassion in us! If we are responding to suffering with compassion and do what we can to answer the call for help, isn't that an appropriate response? Q'uo has indicated that it is; by stating that humans' response to catastrophic events like tsunamis generate a lot of compassion, and that's a good thing.
(08-04-2011, 06:50 PM)Lorna Wrote: this is THE time for learning. in my experience one of the most significant pre-incarnative choices that one can make to foster growth is the choice to suffer, to feel pain or limitation, both for our own growth and those around us. and that learning may be as simple as learning to take personal responsibility for lifestyle choices, or it may be as complex as the impact of an early death rippling across a family and a community.
talking about devastating childhood illnesses in this way is incredibly emotive, especially when one of our b4th forum members posted not so long ago about his daughter suffering from leukemia, i guess what i'm trying to say is that your passion is admirable, but please tread gently
In what way? I'm confused. Ironically, I actually find your statements a bit jarring. I'm sure you don't mean to imply that we shouldn't try to help others, but I'm reminded of when I went to a New Age-type church and shared with a couple of people my problems at the time. They just said, "Must be your karma." Whereas, when I went to a Christian church, they immediately started praying for me.
I know we have the same goals, but apparently we aren't communicating our mutual compassion very well. I know beyond any doubt that both you and I do have compassion for others. I can tell that you do. I'm sorry for not conveying that I do too. And I'm sorry if anything I said unintentionally offended anyone who has lost a family member. I honestly am. But I'm at a loss. How do we discuss world events, and how we can improve the planet, without addressing these realities? I'm sorry that a member lost a family member. We all have, at one time or another. My own parents both died from chronic diseases directly related to lifestyle. Obviously there were karmic components. But that isn't stopping me from helping others to avoid the same fate.
As we near the Harvest, some people are choosing to be healed of those very same diseases, because the catalyst has already accomplished its purpose. Those are the ones who will find a healing method, whether conventional or alternative, that works for them. But we have to do our part in offering it to them, if we have the knowledge. To withhold the knowledge would be uncompassionate.