08-03-2011, 04:51 PM
Dear Monica,
It seems that we might have different systems. Yes, the average time it takes for a drug to be approved is about 3-5 years. The time it takes to undergo all the testing is about 10-15 years. It has to undergo a tremendious research and investigation before it will be put on the market. If it pass that control, the price and it's effect is also controlled. If there already are similar drugs (it is allowed to be only 5 similar drugs), and this specific drug does not have anything better to come up with, it can only be put on the market if the price is lower. I think that the average time for every drug to have all rights reserved is about 5 years (to cover the scientistific research etc). After that any other company can manifacture the same drug, at much lower cost, which is almost always done too. The governmental investigation company is independent. Swedish media does a good job of investigating any possible relationships, bribes and corruption. All the government documents (except those concerning national security) are free to access.
As far as I know there is no win/loose for doctors for underreporting. But I am not a doctor myself and thus, do not know that for sure. I am trying to not jump into the assumptions of firm nature, without having the knowledge. What someone says, is usually balanced with something different that someone elses say. Some things are just hard to know for sure, and firm opinions can act as an obstacle in understanding.
I don't mean that someone would die from alternative 'medicine', although it can happen. What I meant is that some persons (naive or old or desperate) might stop taking their needed for the survival medication because they start to believe in someone who (might or might not be a believer without the facts) tells them to start taking a 'medication' that has not been proven to have any effect! The tragic outcome of that can be death, which in Sweden is governed by law and can lead to imprisonment.
I have quite strong opinions about vaccin too, and I will take a look at those threads when I have more time. But I am interested in the research and investigations that are done by actual doctors/scientists, with no other biases accept saving lives, and not fear based information that is trying to spread well, fear.
It seems that we might have different systems. Yes, the average time it takes for a drug to be approved is about 3-5 years. The time it takes to undergo all the testing is about 10-15 years. It has to undergo a tremendious research and investigation before it will be put on the market. If it pass that control, the price and it's effect is also controlled. If there already are similar drugs (it is allowed to be only 5 similar drugs), and this specific drug does not have anything better to come up with, it can only be put on the market if the price is lower. I think that the average time for every drug to have all rights reserved is about 5 years (to cover the scientistific research etc). After that any other company can manifacture the same drug, at much lower cost, which is almost always done too. The governmental investigation company is independent. Swedish media does a good job of investigating any possible relationships, bribes and corruption. All the government documents (except those concerning national security) are free to access.
As far as I know there is no win/loose for doctors for underreporting. But I am not a doctor myself and thus, do not know that for sure. I am trying to not jump into the assumptions of firm nature, without having the knowledge. What someone says, is usually balanced with something different that someone elses say. Some things are just hard to know for sure, and firm opinions can act as an obstacle in understanding.
I don't mean that someone would die from alternative 'medicine', although it can happen. What I meant is that some persons (naive or old or desperate) might stop taking their needed for the survival medication because they start to believe in someone who (might or might not be a believer without the facts) tells them to start taking a 'medication' that has not been proven to have any effect! The tragic outcome of that can be death, which in Sweden is governed by law and can lead to imprisonment.
I have quite strong opinions about vaccin too, and I will take a look at those threads when I have more time. But I am interested in the research and investigations that are done by actual doctors/scientists, with no other biases accept saving lives, and not fear based information that is trying to spread well, fear.