Harvest: Do The Math

[Raman]

You are being way too deterministic. Both are correct.

By that, I mean that your idea of harvest embodying a single moment in space is true. There will be a watershed moment where there will be a great release and those ready will ascend. I think you are bang on in that way.

However, you are completely glossing over many things that are explicitly stated by Ra. First, that there are such things as transitional bodies and also a transitional time of 100-700 years while the yellow sphere/ray fades into potentiation. Transitional bodies are clearly stated as 3d entities that will be able to withstand the new 4D vibrations post-harvest. We also know that once the green sphere reaches full activation, the earth will enter a transitional period in which the yellow sphere and ray will fade out over 100-700 years. For myself, this is the window for acceptance of the 4D earth on a globally unified level. When everyone is finally on the same 'team' (ie: there is only ONE choice - STO), the yellow sphere is gone and the Green has full reign. Q'uo and Ra both states 4D worlds as being ones of unity rather than duality, so post-harvest I think we can expect different communities to spring up. There will be unity centers like the ones described earlier in Spain, where all are taken care of and all are in service to others. I would also imagine those who cannot accept this way of life (pure 3Ds) to start their own small communities as well. If you think this would lead to chaos and war, remember that we're now talking of a 4D world. Any needs of the pure 3D entities would be met happily by the transitional/4D beings as an opportunity to serve. In this way, I would expect the pure 3Ds to live a very confused life post-harvest, but I think the question is more do we wait for them to all die out, or do we wait for them to accept and ascend?

Second, there is the whole population numbers issue. Ra was clear that at the time of Carla's channeling, Earth's graduation to a 4D positive planet was still in the balance. The amount of harvestables was extremely low, but Ra was very clear to say that anything could happen as harvest approaches. 'One fine, strong moment' could happen and turn the tides at any moment. Back in 1980, the world's population was around 3.5 Billion people. Here's the thing about population growth: it's not linear. In the last 30 years, we have doubled the entire population one time over; this is unprecedented growth. The interesting thing is that both Ra and Q'uo admit that the influx of high-seniority entities and powerful wanderers was going to intensify as we approached the harvest date. So, lets look at this from above: we have Ra and Q'uo saying that the most positive souls in our planets history will be the ones to be born as we approach harvest, as this is a major milestone/event in each soul's evolution and being present is important for us. Additionally, they also say that the influx of help from wanderers from higher densities would only get more numerous as well, as each provides a huge amount of energy to add to the pull towards 4D positive. Now take into consideration that we've borne 3.5 Billion people in the last 30 years, right after Ra tells us these things. There is a reason the revolutions that are starting around the world are being led by the youth. They are the great souls who have come for harvest, and they will remake this world once they are given the power to, imo...

Finally, the need for population control is ridiculous and one of the darkest things you could ever put your support into. Population control is nothing more than genocide. The world's population as it is is no longer the problem they were claiming a few years back. Due to the rising industries found in China, India, and Brazil (as well as other 3rd world countries), women are being given the option to work and start a career rather than purely being baby-ovens for their whole lives. This is happening enough around the world that the future population levels actually seem pretty modest moving forward. The idea that we need to get rid of a bunch of people to make more room is a pure STS notion coming straight from the illuminati and those who run the world. By saying this, you are basically saying that the coal industry, oil rigs, and lithium mines are more important than people's lives. IMO, that is wrong.

I have a slightly unique view on 3D/4D bodies in that I feel the difference between 3D and 4D is not so much a physical existence or incarnation, but instead the way in which we perceive and integrate into the world. This is why they are uniquely incompatible; you cannot be ignorant when you know better. In this way, the yellow ray is that of confusion and duality (ignorance) while the green ray is that of love and understanding (knowing better). The 3D body must 'die' once we ascend to 4D, but does that mean that the 1D and 2D bodies also die? What if our bodies are left for a short time (a la Jesus) and then transformed when we re-enter them as 4D entities to start our work on the new 4D planet? I have a whole thread on it somewhere, but the main point for me is that the death of the 3D body doesn't necessarily mean the death of our bodies, but instead the death of our minds as we know them. The confusion will leave, and frankly, we have no idea what that will feel like

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Population control? I am just saying Ra stated when Harvest occurs 3d density bodies AND thoughts AND feelings AND artifacts will cease to exist:

63.32 Questioner: When the third-density goes out of activation and into potentiation that will leave us with a planet that is first, second, and fourth-density. At that time there will be no activated third-density vibrations on this planet. Am I correct in assuming that all third-density vibrations on this planet now are those vibrations that compose the bodily complexes of entities such as we are; that that is the sum total of third-density vibrations on this planet at this time?

Ra: I am Ra. This will be the last full query of this working. This instrument has energy left due to transfer but there is discomfort. We do not wish to deplete this instrument. May we say that this instrument seems in better configuration despite attack than previous workings.

To answer your query, this is incorrect only in that in addition to the mind/body/spirit complexes of third-density there are the artifacts, thought-forms, and feelings which these co-Creators have produced. This is third-density.

May we answer any brief queries as we leave this instrument?

If this is 'population control' to you, so be it.

Second, another 6th density group created pyramids, cities, and (to me) the mayan calendar which is about consciousness. And we are just realizing this close to harvest time...(---minus the 'Gregorian factor' per Ra in 'approximately' 2011).

Doom/gloom, yes, not good. However, Mars or Maldek scenario totally possible if something 'different' does not happen. --Talk about doom/gloom....

By the way, do you people realize that eventually you will die? (in the 3d sense?)...

Third, 'doom and gloom' scenarios are indeed possible and they are indeed a stop to evolution. (destruction of the planet). But since 'harvest' is here (in whatever form) soon, 4d earth is possible.

Seems that cycles in 3d are 25,000 years each and a definitive final one after 3 times, because it is a 'safety valve' most of the time, due to the propensities of 3d evolution for destruction if things go awry, etc.

Would I like if at harvest time multicolored candy falls from the sky and we hug each other and start a new world, and sing kumbaya and all computers run gnu/linux? Well yeah...

I think we are too attached to 3d....