Harvest: Do The Math

[Raman]

Let me add this: In the event of an economic collapse, if you have studied the developments in Spain that gave birth to the may 15th 'revolution' you can see a few things:

--People can congregate spontaneously and HELP each other.

--People can be HAPPY

--New ways of organizing are POSSIBLE.

--NO LEADERSHIP is NECESSARY.

--People can SPONTANEOUSLY find SOLUTIONS to problems.

--UNITY was easy to achieve.

--NO MONEY was involved. Everything was voluntary as far as I know.

These are some points I can think of at the moment. Kia, a forum member from spain went to 'El Sol' (the sun plaza where it started) and she mentioned it was like a 4th density environment with free childcare, food, books, people singing...etc...this lasted for quite a while until the police and other 'services' infiltrated and created artificial violence, untasteful situations and a belicose atmosphere using different 'techniques' in order to have excuses to disperse participants.

However, the movement now is very alive in 'barrios' and seemingly, inner cities.