(01-09-2009, 06:07 AM)Chaotikmind Wrote: Well, i'll try to express myself clearly, (if that 's not the case just let me known and i'll clarify)
I strongly feel there is a misunderstanding of STS here,
it seems that STS is always linked to something evil, which is obviously false :
The link between good/evil and positive/negative is pure human biasing, servicing the self don't necessarily make you a killer or something like that, (well, i have to admit the path is pretty dark and can easily lead to it)
I guess people like me choose that path because they are so isolated that they simply finish to take what they want since nobody is able to help/speak/understand what they live.
Let's think about that ying-yang symbol, positive and negative are always interacting, this bring in the needed dynamics for things to be alive (in a broad sense).
Do you realize that we feel the same things as STO when feeling the raw power of the source? (years ago before knowing about TLOO i used to call intelligent energy :the source)
I guess most of you never felt that, being surrounded by light for hours,
reward of a pretty long , intensive , and chaotic path for me... filled with raw power for month before the feeling fades .
SO, yes, that path is destructive, hard, an can be viewed as kind of a mini-hell from outside, i would reallly not advice one who is weak to take it, it can shred you into pieces.
Personnally i read the TLOO material finding in it something that clearly reflect my view of the world, it's obviously a very good information source (which are rare by the way),
and i just wanted to let you think about the fact you don't have to associate evilness with negative polarization, of course most of you would probably not like me if you were chatting with me in the real life, but that don't make me running all around chopping heads with an axe !
mm, a bit disorganised , if something sounds paradoxal, i'll try to re-explain my point of view/feeling about it.
Hi Chaotikmind!
Thank you for your comments and for your service!
I agree with ayadew's and Steve's comments, and would add a few thoughts for your consideration:
Many religions view the 'dark path' as evil. What amazed me about the LOO was that the dark path was seen as a valid path - the STS entities serve the One Infinite Creator just as the STO entities do. STS entities provide a very valuable service, and I think you will find that most of the participants here do show appreciation for that service.
I also agree that STS entities should not be automatically assumed 'evil' in the classic sense 'violent.'
I have concluded that many people who have committed acts of violent, even heinous acts, have not necessarily polarized to STS. Sometimes they just had a rotten childhood and are in need of healing. For those entities, a strong dose of love can often result in a complete turnaround and an open heart.
Conversely, many entities who have definitely chosen the STS path aren't violent at all. But they are often characterized by their quest for domination and control of others. Many may even appear quite ordinary, even altruistic, on the surface, but there is no way any of us can discern their true motivation.
As Ra said about historic politicians and warlords: some were of mixed polarity, and their motivation did not always seem congruous with their actions. A classic example is Hitler, who is always assumed to be negatively polarized to the degree of being harvestable to STS; yet, although decidedly of STS leanings, his soul was actually a very confused mixed polarity.
That's one of the (many) things that blew my mind when I read the LOO. Preconceived ideas about good and evil were found to be shallow and naive, and replaced by a view that truly does seem to come from a higher consciousness - those dwelling in a density in which good and evil have reconciled - a density in which there is no longer any polarity.
Your words remind me a lot of a friend of mine. She too has traversed some dark places, and has claimed to identify with the dark path to some degree (though, to be fair, she does not think in terms of STS and STO, so I really cannot speak for her...I don't really know how she views herself). Yet, I have a difficult time thinking of her as STS because she has always been kind, compassionate, considerate, and loving towards me.
Early in the friendship, I made the decision to not judge her. It was not my place to do so. I had actually told her that she could choose the path of Light, and she then told me that she didn't want me to try to 'fix' her.
So I released all efforts to 'evangelize' to her about the STO path. She is progressing on her own path and it is none of my concern whether it is STS or STO. There is no way I can possibly judge her path. It is hers.
Upon knowing her and seeing the love in her, I realized why Ra offers the percentages in determining the polarity. We are ALL of mixed polarity! The only difference is the ratio.
I suspect that some entities who consciously think they are on an STO path might actually be on an STS path, and vice versa. So, to an observer, it can be difficult or impossible to tell, and even to the person as well. It's all about choice, and honesty with the self. I think this is why Ra recommended that we utilize a study of self such as Tarot, Kabbalah, or Astrology - these studies help us to see deeply into our own motivations and clarify our path.
If you truly are on the STS path, then I thank you for your service! You won't be judged here.
Having said all that, however, I think it is important to acknowledge that the LOO itself, as well as the subsequent channelings of the Q'uo material, and really anything coming out of L/L Research, is indeed biased to STO.
In fact, our own Logos is biased to STO!
Ra and Q'uo have both made this very clear. I'm not finding the exact reading right now (can anyone help?) but, to paraphrase, it was something like "Both paths are valid. The dark path is a difficult and bloody path. We are NOT those. We are of the radiant path."
So, the LOO is indeed biased. They have answered the call of those who are seeking the STO path. Other entities - those of the STS persuasion, do their own work in answering the call of STS entities. Assistance is available to all.
Because of this bias, the discussions here will tend to reflect that.
Love and Light to you on your path!
(Edit) I cross-posted with 3D Sunset - whose comments I agree with as well.
PS. I invite you to check out the Q'uo transcripts.