The Q’uo material is more recent and as it is an ever changing situation I am more inclined to listen to them(though Ra is a part of there group!lol). They really resonate deeply within me. I am probably of there 5th density group. Anyway, on several occations(that I do not care to find and quote 
) they have stated that it will occur between the summer and winter solstices of 2012.
Earth is already 4d. 4d just remains invisible by choice so that the rest of those in 3d and those who have graduated to 4d that are wandering back to 3d may accomplish what they need to accomplish in what is left of the 3d energies. The harvest in fact began in '87 I believe it was. No one will notice the end of time; it is purly metaphyical. 3d will continue to play out its energies till they are no more. Q'uo has stated this period of 3d playing out after the end of time could go on as long as a couple of centuries.
Love and Peace my friends
) they have stated that it will occur between the summer and winter solstices of 2012. Earth is already 4d. 4d just remains invisible by choice so that the rest of those in 3d and those who have graduated to 4d that are wandering back to 3d may accomplish what they need to accomplish in what is left of the 3d energies. The harvest in fact began in '87 I believe it was. No one will notice the end of time; it is purly metaphyical. 3d will continue to play out its energies till they are no more. Q'uo has stated this period of 3d playing out after the end of time could go on as long as a couple of centuries.
Love and Peace my friends