07-02-2011, 08:25 PM
there is nothing 'linear' with this. it doesnt matter how you name it - larger, greater, 'before', 'after'. there was infinity first, and infinity came 'after'.
if we look at actual experience the only verifiable notion of time is not this singular moment. as Ra says, there is future and past in 3rd density. this is probably valid for all octaves and their mid-densities : if all octaves are heartbeats in which everything first spreads out/separates and the combines/unifies, then it means everything comes from octave-unison from the start of octave, and goes to octave unison at the end.
imagine infinite number of strings that start from one point and end in another, creating a sphere with their endless numbers. imagine one point of this is start point of octave, and the other end, end of the octave. there is singularity at start of octave and end, but for everything in between, there are observable threads.
you can call these threads whatever you can. parallel universes if you take it in a octave-level, parallel existences if you take it in an entity level and so on.
it is true that when in the whole of the picture, there is no tomorrow, or yesterday, but only an everpresent now in which it is possible to traverse any point - but for anything that is ON one of those threads, there is a future, and there is now until they reach from one point to another, or pass to other threads through probabilities.
let me summarize what i think about this in simpler words :
all this 'everpresent now' and 'time is linear' talk is exaggerated, overrated and inapplicable - for any entity that is not approximating octave end, there is change, there is time, there is past and future. the 'everpresent now' and timelessness is in entity's FUTURE development point - aka, mind/body/spirit complex totality.
referral to a future timepoint does not make it a reality for the entity now.
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everything aside, there would be no point in creating a physical manifestation to make entities progress in it, if the physical manifestation did not separate cause-effect, past-present-future, this-that relationships into understandable, digestable and usable levels. it is because that we have a creation in which entities are learning lessons and experiencing things and associating them with their relevant occurrences.
else it would be an everpresent everchaotic now in which everything happened all at the same time, and it would be impossible to perceive anything, even at spirit level.
if we look at actual experience the only verifiable notion of time is not this singular moment. as Ra says, there is future and past in 3rd density. this is probably valid for all octaves and their mid-densities : if all octaves are heartbeats in which everything first spreads out/separates and the combines/unifies, then it means everything comes from octave-unison from the start of octave, and goes to octave unison at the end.
imagine infinite number of strings that start from one point and end in another, creating a sphere with their endless numbers. imagine one point of this is start point of octave, and the other end, end of the octave. there is singularity at start of octave and end, but for everything in between, there are observable threads.
you can call these threads whatever you can. parallel universes if you take it in a octave-level, parallel existences if you take it in an entity level and so on.
it is true that when in the whole of the picture, there is no tomorrow, or yesterday, but only an everpresent now in which it is possible to traverse any point - but for anything that is ON one of those threads, there is a future, and there is now until they reach from one point to another, or pass to other threads through probabilities.
let me summarize what i think about this in simpler words :
all this 'everpresent now' and 'time is linear' talk is exaggerated, overrated and inapplicable - for any entity that is not approximating octave end, there is change, there is time, there is past and future. the 'everpresent now' and timelessness is in entity's FUTURE development point - aka, mind/body/spirit complex totality.
referral to a future timepoint does not make it a reality for the entity now.
.........
everything aside, there would be no point in creating a physical manifestation to make entities progress in it, if the physical manifestation did not separate cause-effect, past-present-future, this-that relationships into understandable, digestable and usable levels. it is because that we have a creation in which entities are learning lessons and experiencing things and associating them with their relevant occurrences.
else it would be an everpresent everchaotic now in which everything happened all at the same time, and it would be impossible to perceive anything, even at spirit level.