(06-28-2011, 01:02 PM)Daydreamin Wrote: You see the thing is w/ guys like Ron Paul
"Guys like Ron Paul"? Can you tell me one person who is like Ron Paul?
(06-28-2011, 01:02 PM)Daydreamin Wrote: is that sure he says things like 'end the Fed' but why doesn't he really call them out?
Daydramin, I invite you to get educated about Ron Paul. He has indeed done that, and continues to do that. In fact, he is a lone voice doing just that.
(06-28-2011, 01:02 PM)Daydreamin Wrote: As for Palin the funny thing is she hasn't even been an elected official for how long now and the media STILL blasts her and keep giving obama a free pass when he's been by far the WORST POTUS we've EVER had!
Worse than Bush? I cannot fathom that. And I have very specific, concrete reasons for feeling that way about Bush. He did things that were unprecedented. So it's not some blind hatred because he's a Republican, like so many who hate the other party's guy just because they identify with their own party, so the other guy must be a bad guy. I have no party affiliation.
Even so, I have no illusions that Bush did all that stuff. He was just the puppet and doesn't get all the blame. So it's ridiculous to hate him. He too is an other-self. Whoever is in office, isn't necessarily responsible for what his administration does. He's just the puppet. Obama too is a puppet, though perhaps not as blatantly as Bush.
The difference is, in my opinion, that Obama didn't intend to be a puppet. Whereas, Bush was a puppet from the start. This is my opinion based on my own observation and is entirely subjective.
(06-28-2011, 01:02 PM)Daydreamin Wrote: He's Carter on steroids and your perception of obama being a 'good guy' is laughable at best.
Respectfully, I have no interest in an "insult Obama or Bush" contest. Such comments lack substance. I fail to see any comparison between Bush and Obama so I don't want to participate in that.
(06-28-2011, 01:02 PM)Daydreamin Wrote: Is his voting record of voting for live birth abortion that makes you think this?
Obama didn't vote 'for' live birth abortion. He voted 'against' what he considers an erosion of women's 'rights.' There is a distinct difference in the minds of those who consider themselves pro-choice.
For the record, I'm pro-life, and I disagree with Obama on this issue. I support Ron Paul's pro-life stance when it comes to abortion. Even though I disagree with them, I don't like to see their views and motivations misrepresented. I have a lot of friends who are pro-choice, and it's inaccurate to classify them as 'pro-abortion.'
Many of them are anti-war, pro-animal rights, etc. They don't see the contradiction.
Likewise, the pro-lifers don't see the contradiction either. I find it the height of hypocrisy for so many right-wing Republicans to claim to be pro-life, and then support war. (I have a bumpersticker stating, "War is not pro-life.")
(I'm not referring to anyone specifically on this forum. I know plenty of people in everyday life in both camps.)
I don't even agree with Ron Paul on every issue. There aren't any candidates or presidents with whom we will agree 100%. If Obama is evil because of a single issue, then, by that logic, all other presidents who have ever participated in any wars, are also evil. It's not that simple. And the voting on the issues isn't that simple either. Voting records get twisted and motivations gets skewed, to further whichever agenda one wishes to further.
(06-28-2011, 01:02 PM)Daydreamin Wrote: Or what is it? For the record I believe both Bush's are very evil
Well we agree on that!
(06-28-2011, 01:02 PM)Daydreamin Wrote: as they most recently now are buying up as much water as possible for they refer to water these days as 'blue gold.'
Buying water??? Please elaborate. I am keenly interested in this.
(06-28-2011, 01:02 PM)Daydreamin Wrote: I've really moved away from my political way of thinking b/c IMO all I can really control is the people in my life. I've tried for years to alert the masses of the wrongdoings of our country to no avail. The whole process is a joke. Just like the fake 'polls' they always cram down our throats which are really nothing more than propaganda machines.
Agreed! However, I do believe that, as people wake up, the establishments (whether govt., medical, religious, or whatever) will reflect that.
This is timely; someone just posted this on Facebook.
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