07-28-2009, 07:40 PM
I'm not happy that people feel I am arrogant or disrespectful I don't want to be that person. I especially don't want to be arrogant and act aloof now because I value your opinion Plur. I have a high opinion of myself, that's true. But I think I valued your opinion a bit more than I was able to communicate to you.
I apologize, not for wrong intent. But for not seeing that I negatively affected you. Whether I am right or wrong.. That is the part I am to blame for. I want to respect myself while respecting others. If I am perceived as arrogant I would like to change that. If I cannot do that without letting go of what I hold dear it's better I go than ruin the experience for others.
On the rest I'm also not sure what happened. I'd state that I was not defining spiritual experience in absolute terms. I think I was agreeing most of the times adding my opinions but at some point that turned into opposing positions. When I said you have to follow your highest joys and ideals. I meant "do what you came to do", not, "forget what you came to do, do my stuff instead". I was, maybe naively, assuming that this would be part of your joys and ideals. Even if it doesn't seem that way that can still be true can't it? You seemed to state that you follow your ideals and I just wanted to agree on this because it's the right thing to do in my humble opinion.
Monica, I won't go into the moonlanding other than state that I must respectfully disagree with you that there is a case for the hoax theory. Their arguments as far as I can see are mostly debunked. The moonrocks are among the most studied objects on this planet. And since recently I believe we even have satellite photo's of the landing site. This is just the tip of the iceberg though for a potentially enormous topic. If you want to pursue this deeper maybe we should open a separate topic, but it might be wiser to just let it go. Reasonable as you seem to think I am I am also pretty confident on this I've studied both sides of the argument in the past. And if it's a potential point of conflict we might be better of beginning by agreeing to disagree. And finishing off with a beer.
Sleep well everyone.
I apologize, not for wrong intent. But for not seeing that I negatively affected you. Whether I am right or wrong.. That is the part I am to blame for. I want to respect myself while respecting others. If I am perceived as arrogant I would like to change that. If I cannot do that without letting go of what I hold dear it's better I go than ruin the experience for others.
On the rest I'm also not sure what happened. I'd state that I was not defining spiritual experience in absolute terms. I think I was agreeing most of the times adding my opinions but at some point that turned into opposing positions. When I said you have to follow your highest joys and ideals. I meant "do what you came to do", not, "forget what you came to do, do my stuff instead". I was, maybe naively, assuming that this would be part of your joys and ideals. Even if it doesn't seem that way that can still be true can't it? You seemed to state that you follow your ideals and I just wanted to agree on this because it's the right thing to do in my humble opinion.
Monica, I won't go into the moonlanding other than state that I must respectfully disagree with you that there is a case for the hoax theory. Their arguments as far as I can see are mostly debunked. The moonrocks are among the most studied objects on this planet. And since recently I believe we even have satellite photo's of the landing site. This is just the tip of the iceberg though for a potentially enormous topic. If you want to pursue this deeper maybe we should open a separate topic, but it might be wiser to just let it go. Reasonable as you seem to think I am I am also pretty confident on this I've studied both sides of the argument in the past. And if it's a potential point of conflict we might be better of beginning by agreeing to disagree. And finishing off with a beer.
Sleep well everyone.