06-23-2011, 06:54 PM
(06-22-2011, 09:38 AM)unity100 Wrote:Quote:Bring4th_GLB wrote:
The only way out of which I am aware is through harvest. I've never been sure that a wanderer can come in for a pre-determined set time at the expiration of which they return home without having to meet the requirements of harvest (except perhaps in the case of the walk-in).
no requirement was set at any point for wanderers' return to their home social memory complex or density in Ra material, except that the entity should not get itself entangled with planetary vibrations, and become a 3d entity in spirit.
Now this is an interesting thought. For many years I have operated under the premise that once you're a third-density entity - be it native, an import, or a wanderer - you must complete the requirements of harvest in order to graduate from third density. Either by achieving 51% STO at the closing of a 25,000 yr cycle, or by contacting intelligent infinity and thus self-harvesting.
Are you saying that there is no mention whatsoever of the wanderer needing to meet the requirements of harvest?
If so, does anyone reading this know of a section in the Law of One that would refute this statement? (Don't have the time to run a keyword search on "harvest".)
The "entangled" part you mentioned also, I thought, spoke to the possibility of karmic involvement *preventing* being harvested due to a reduction of polarity.
Quote:Unity100: moreover, 3d harvest is not 4d harvest, or 5d harvest and vice versa. the requirements and what is sought in these harvests differ greatly.
Yes, but my understanding has been (and I could have been mistaken all along) that regardless of the home density of the wanderer, once it enters third-density it must pass the same "test", so to speak, of graduation that every other third-density entity must pass.
I don't see why wanderers would be an exception that.
Quote:Unity100: it is rather definite that positive entities also have the possibility of getting harvested through contacting intelligent infinity before harvest time. since, no conditions were given for that, but only contact with intelligent infinity.
Hey, whaddya know we're on the same page!
A thought worth mentioning: My thinking is that the positively oriented entity who does contact intelligent infinity is not doing so in order to find the exit to third density, per se. Rather it is a whole-being love of the truth which motivates this type of seeking.
Quote:Unity100: however, the question and angle i am approaching from is this - you need to be able to amass/use a certain amount of energy for contacting intelligent infinity according to material.
negative entities can do that by getting energies from other entities. however, positive entities need to be in an environment which is sufficiently positive.
and it seems, on this planet, such a situation which would provide energies enough to contact intelligent infinity before harvest had not happened.
Environment plays a strong role in an entity's polarization, I agree. I recall Ra mentioning how once a planet went negative it was next to impossible for an entity to polarize positively, whereas that was not true in the opposite case.
However, I don't think it a prerequisite that in order to amass/use this quotient of energy on the positive path there need be an overwhelmingly positively polarized environment. Certainly such an environment would be an invaluable aid. But with sufficient will and faith, this light energy could still be amassed.
Quote:Unity100: the wanderer, having more concentration, and more spiritual bias in regard to the upward flowing light for hundreds of millions of years, would get affected by the upward stream much more than a 3d entity. it would drive the entity like a truck. or, crash into the wall if blocked.
I like the idea of this upward spiraling light being "concentrated" in the, as you say elsewhere in the forums, "energy model" of the wanderer.
That works for me. If you consider that the upward spiraling light is a subtle energy (subtle meaning obscured by the gross energies of the physical illusion), it is not "potent" in the way that gross energies within the illusion are potent.
But as the entity works with, becomes aware of, and incorporates the spiraling light back into its being over the course of hundreds of millions of years, perhaps it becomes what we would consider to be "concentrated", imbuing itself into the fabric of that entity.
This makes me think of a section in "Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi" where he likens sunlight to the Self:
"...in the sunshine cotton does not burn; but if the cotton be placed under a lens it catches fire and is consumed by the rays of the Sun passing through the lens. So too, though the awareness of the Self is present at all times, it is not inimical to ignorance. If by meditation the subtle state of thought is won, then ignorance is destroyed."
We can say though the awareness of the upward spiraling light is present at all times, it is not inimical to ignorance, to the desire for sleep and non-evolution. But seek it, bring it into being, and *concentrate it*, the light begins to burn away the false notions of self.
Also really enjoy the image of it driving the entity like a truck. Though I don't think it would necessarily involve a crash into a metaphorical wall if blocked. I think entities can sufficiently armor themselves from the subtler energies of truth to the point of being rather impervious, apathetic, pleasure-seeking sleepers.
Love/Light,
GLB
Explanation by the tongue makes most things clear, but love unexplained is clearer. - Rumi
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