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    06-22-2011, 08:38 PM
    (06-22-2011, 07:58 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: If that were true, then this planet has failed miserably!

    that is, in a certain respect, most true :

    Quote:I think there is a reason that we've evolved in families, tribes, etc. It's a step in the process. Many 3D entities cannot even love or forgive their own wives/husbands/children/parents! To love/forgive others who aren't family, is too advanced for them. They have to start with family. Once they are able to love/forgive family, then maybe they can work towards loving/forgiving close friends. Then, continuing to progress outwards, they can eventually love/forgive those of other 'tribes.'

    all are manifestations of orange ray identification behavior.

    this is one of the things that greatly plague this planet.

    Quote:Ra didn't specify that the 51% had to extend to non-family members. That might even be the reason there is some wiggle-room there. The 51% minimum is likely expressed with primarily family and friends. Those who love strangers, and engage in altruistic acts, have gone beyond the 51%.

    For those who reach only the minimum 51%, they will likely learn to love others beyond their friends and families, in 4D.

    in case you are aware, 51% positive vibrations means you opened your energy centers up to 51%, with yellow being in the open. and if yellow is open, that would mean non-discrimination.

    in addition, elitism and similar concepts are associated with negativity, and its mechanism.

    also, during harvest, do you think that the harvest is going to happen in a family context, and the situation of the entity will not be measured out of that context ?

    not to mention that, the very concept 'family' is an orange concept that involves identification with some number of people more than others. in short, its an orange ray identification involvement.

    when all the mental biases of the entity falls away prior to harvest, and it is subjected to the harvest, the entity's orange ray identification behavior would show during harvest.

    Quote:Agreed. However, here is a point I think you're missing:

    What might appear as 'justification' might actually be responsibility in another area of life.

    You just used the word 'serve.' If one is serving, then one is acting in an STO capacity. This person has a responsibility to serve, to choose STO actions. Thus, that too is a responsibility. Therefore, if that person, say, quit her job, which resulted in neglecting her children, then she has just traded one responsibility for another.

    you can take the word 'serve' in positive emissions context. those two are not separable from each other.

    there will not be 'family' mental context during harvest measurement. it is a mental bias pertaining to this planet.

    Quote:Are you saying that an entity who is aware has an equal amount of responsibility as one who is not aware?

    im saying that it seems so. for, anyone who is participating in anything, knowingly or unknowingly (conscious or unconscious knowing or unknowing dont differ in this context) are still affected by the results of their actions.

    ala the lifespan shortening.

    Quote:I recall Ra addressing this point. If I remember correctly, Ra stated something about responsibility increasing as awareness increased. And I know Edgar Cayce stated that, for what it's worth. With ability comes responsibility.

    yes, it does. but, it seems to involve more direct, fast manifestations of the law of responsibility in individual's own life. rather than participation in the orange system reducing your lifespan not from 900 to 40, but 900 to 140.

    Quote:But neglecting her children is also a negative act. How is this reconciled?

    the positively oriented entity would choose a route that would attempt to not neglect anyone, even if that route is not wise or feasible. this goes valid for 3d and 4d entities apparently, for, if we look at Ra, 5d and higher entities choose to refrain from marriage or having children.

    Quote:In the normal corporate world, that is generally true. Which is precisely my point: These new companies have created a new business model which doesn't fall into the old corporate structure. They've changed the game. What you call a mechanic; a new mechanic has been created

    are you aware that the established companies have long been in the process of subduing those corporations and models ? and some are the things you are interested in ? like natural food products ? im not even mentioning anything about what is going on in the world of information technology, patents, or internet.

    Quote:FDR, Lincoln. We just discussed this on another thread. There were others but I think these were the only ones in politics.

    both entities were able to get into power in outstanding conditions - one through great depression, other, during a time of political/social crisis. one was shot, the other was mildly successful - thanks to the fact that he got elected in an era in which the corporate interests had not realized that things could go not their way, and constant effort was needed for lobbying/control. not to mention mass media or other information mechanisms were not around to effect the measures we talked about in this thread.

    im not even touching how their deeds were speedily undone or trivialized.

    catching the negative mechanism unawares at times, is possible, yes. however that does not make it a rule.

    Quote:None in the corporate world were mentioned. But then, the modern multi-national corporation is a relatively new entity, and Ra wouldn't have commented on that.

    multinational corporations were not new in 19th century, even in lincoln's era.

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    Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-16-2011, 07:19 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-16-2011, 07:24 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-16-2011, 07:47 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by zenmaster - 06-16-2011, 09:17 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-16-2011, 08:02 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-16-2011, 09:25 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-16-2011, 09:58 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by AndresOr - 06-16-2011, 10:25 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-16-2011, 11:24 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-17-2011, 08:26 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by NegaNova - 06-18-2011, 03:09 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Raman - 06-16-2011, 10:23 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by βαθμιαίος - 06-16-2011, 10:43 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Raman - 06-16-2011, 10:48 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-17-2011, 12:12 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Nyu - 06-17-2011, 04:48 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by zack231 - 06-17-2011, 07:10 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-17-2011, 07:48 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-17-2011, 08:01 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-17-2011, 08:16 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Raman - 06-17-2011, 10:38 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-17-2011, 12:36 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-17-2011, 07:37 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by kycahi - 06-17-2011, 01:15 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by NegaNova - 06-17-2011, 06:55 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-18-2011, 01:02 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-18-2011, 03:40 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-18-2011, 04:12 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by NegaNova - 06-18-2011, 04:19 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-18-2011, 04:36 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-18-2011, 08:17 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-18-2011, 08:52 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-18-2011, 09:49 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-18-2011, 10:31 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-18-2011, 10:46 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-18-2011, 10:48 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-18-2011, 10:56 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-18-2011, 11:05 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-19-2011, 07:18 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-20-2011, 10:52 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-20-2011, 11:28 AM
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    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-20-2011, 01:50 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-20-2011, 02:44 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-20-2011, 03:43 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-20-2011, 01:35 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-20-2011, 02:05 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-20-2011, 04:10 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-20-2011, 06:43 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-20-2011, 07:35 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by zenmaster - 06-20-2011, 08:24 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-20-2011, 09:20 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-20-2011, 09:28 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-21-2011, 03:20 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-21-2011, 10:46 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-21-2011, 11:17 AM
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    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-21-2011, 05:09 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-21-2011, 07:25 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-21-2011, 04:18 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-21-2011, 04:33 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-21-2011, 04:38 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-21-2011, 04:45 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-21-2011, 04:56 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-21-2011, 06:58 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-21-2011, 07:29 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-21-2011, 07:50 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-21-2011, 08:10 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-21-2011, 09:46 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-21-2011, 10:20 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-22-2011, 10:35 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-22-2011, 12:07 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-22-2011, 02:29 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-22-2011, 02:50 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-22-2011, 04:26 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-22-2011, 05:45 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-22-2011, 06:27 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-22-2011, 06:41 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-22-2011, 07:14 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 10:56 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 12:16 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 12:23 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 03:51 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-22-2011, 04:11 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 05:20 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-22-2011, 06:53 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 06:30 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 06:50 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-22-2011, 06:57 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 07:01 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-22-2011, 07:09 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 09:53 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 07:09 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-22-2011, 07:25 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-22-2011, 07:58 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-22-2011, 08:38 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-22-2011, 09:37 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-22-2011, 10:03 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 09:44 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-22-2011, 10:04 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 10:10 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 10:27 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 10:39 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-23-2011, 09:07 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 10:46 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 10:52 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 10:58 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 11:09 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 11:20 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by zenmaster - 06-22-2011, 11:22 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-23-2011, 08:58 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by zenmaster - 06-23-2011, 09:04 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 11:24 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 11:28 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 11:32 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-23-2011, 07:43 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by zenmaster - 06-23-2011, 09:14 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-23-2011, 02:02 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-23-2011, 02:20 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-23-2011, 02:57 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-23-2011, 03:05 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-23-2011, 03:16 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-23-2011, 03:31 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-23-2011, 03:41 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-23-2011, 10:38 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-24-2011, 04:10 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-24-2011, 10:05 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-24-2011, 09:21 PM
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    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-24-2011, 10:14 PM
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