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    06-22-2011, 10:56 AM (This post was last modified: 06-22-2011, 11:17 AM by Bring4th_Austin.)
    Richard it seems like you may be missing a very important point we're trying to get across, and you even illustrated something Monica talked about herself in your post.

    We can use Monica's story as an example. She's one of these people you're talking about, the good people working for the corporations. She noticed a problem...let's say, much like a reporter would break a story. She went to her supervisor about it...much like a reporter would take the story to her editor. To protect the company and its profits, her supervisor (either under their own directive or the directive of and even higher superior) downplayed/ignored the issue...much like an editor would do the same thing if there were some negative political/public implications for the news corporation from the story.

    So, it has little to do with these people. Yes, they have piles of unpaid medicals bills....yes, they're parents, possibly of ailing children...and yes, the prospect of a job loss may cause them to lose everything and put their family in danger (much like in Monica's story). So what to they do? Defy their bosses and break the story some other way, surely condemning their job, losing their source of income, insurance, and general well-being?

    Or do they keep quiet, keep their job, and do what their bosses tell them?


    Do you think the CEOs of these corporations have some unpaid medical bills piling up? Do you think that their children have ailments they can't afford to cure? These are the one's who hold all the power in the company, and if you take a look at the book I recommended ("The Psychopath Test"), you'll see that many of them admittedly have psychopathic, STS tendencies. It's not condemning nor judgmental to say somebody who admittedly uses people for their own benefit is Service to Self. We can still see them as sparks of the creator, and love them as part of the creation while we disagree with their choices.

    I'm not quite sure I can understand where you're coming from...Monica's story painted a very good picture of the situation for the good people within corporations, did you read its entirety? Do you see how her story may relate to that of someone in a news corporation? She's obviously an example that good people work for these corporations, but she's also a very good example of how the corporate heads can exert their power over someone to suppress information. You don't feel like Monica is a lone example do you?


    Monica also linked a video which shows an exact example of what we're talking about. Do you think we're judging the woman reading a prompt, telling us the WTC7 collapsed when it is clearly standing behind her? Surely not, we realize she's simply a worker doing what she is told. Just because what she is saying isn't true doesn't mean we're condemning her as a liar, but there's obviously more to this story than just her reading a prompt about WTC7 collapsing before it even collapses. There are other people behind that lie, the people that make the decisions and the choices. Not the good people you are talking about.
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    Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-16-2011, 07:19 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-16-2011, 07:24 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-16-2011, 07:47 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by zenmaster - 06-16-2011, 09:17 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-16-2011, 08:02 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-16-2011, 09:25 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-16-2011, 09:58 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by AndresOr - 06-16-2011, 10:25 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-16-2011, 11:24 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-17-2011, 08:26 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by NegaNova - 06-18-2011, 03:09 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Raman - 06-16-2011, 10:23 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by βαθμιαίος - 06-16-2011, 10:43 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Raman - 06-16-2011, 10:48 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-17-2011, 12:12 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Nyu - 06-17-2011, 04:48 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by zack231 - 06-17-2011, 07:10 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-17-2011, 07:48 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-17-2011, 08:01 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-17-2011, 08:16 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Raman - 06-17-2011, 10:38 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-17-2011, 12:36 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-17-2011, 07:37 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by kycahi - 06-17-2011, 01:15 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by NegaNova - 06-17-2011, 06:55 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-18-2011, 01:02 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-18-2011, 03:40 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-18-2011, 04:12 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by NegaNova - 06-18-2011, 04:19 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-18-2011, 04:36 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-18-2011, 08:17 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-18-2011, 08:52 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-18-2011, 09:49 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-18-2011, 10:31 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-18-2011, 10:46 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-18-2011, 10:48 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-18-2011, 10:56 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-18-2011, 11:05 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-19-2011, 07:18 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-20-2011, 10:52 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-20-2011, 11:28 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-20-2011, 12:03 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-20-2011, 01:29 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-20-2011, 01:50 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-20-2011, 02:44 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-20-2011, 03:43 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-20-2011, 01:35 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-20-2011, 02:05 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-20-2011, 04:10 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-20-2011, 06:43 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-20-2011, 07:35 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by zenmaster - 06-20-2011, 08:24 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-20-2011, 09:20 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-20-2011, 09:28 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-21-2011, 03:20 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-21-2011, 10:46 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-21-2011, 11:17 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-21-2011, 04:15 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-21-2011, 05:09 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-21-2011, 07:25 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-21-2011, 04:18 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-21-2011, 04:33 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-21-2011, 04:38 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-21-2011, 04:45 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-21-2011, 04:56 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-21-2011, 06:58 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-21-2011, 07:29 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-21-2011, 07:50 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-21-2011, 08:10 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-21-2011, 09:46 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-21-2011, 10:20 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-22-2011, 10:35 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-22-2011, 12:07 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-22-2011, 02:29 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-22-2011, 02:50 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-22-2011, 04:26 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-22-2011, 05:45 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-22-2011, 06:27 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-22-2011, 06:41 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-22-2011, 07:14 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 10:56 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 12:16 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 12:23 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 03:51 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-22-2011, 04:11 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 05:20 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-22-2011, 06:53 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 06:30 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 06:50 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-22-2011, 06:57 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 07:01 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-22-2011, 07:09 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 09:53 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 07:09 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-22-2011, 07:25 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-22-2011, 07:58 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-22-2011, 08:38 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-22-2011, 09:37 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-22-2011, 10:03 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 09:44 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-22-2011, 10:04 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 10:10 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 10:27 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 10:39 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-23-2011, 09:07 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 10:46 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 10:52 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 10:58 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 11:09 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 11:20 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by zenmaster - 06-22-2011, 11:22 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-23-2011, 08:58 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by zenmaster - 06-23-2011, 09:04 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 11:24 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 11:28 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 11:32 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-23-2011, 07:43 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by zenmaster - 06-23-2011, 09:14 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-23-2011, 02:02 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-23-2011, 02:20 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-23-2011, 02:57 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-23-2011, 03:05 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-23-2011, 03:16 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-23-2011, 03:31 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-23-2011, 03:41 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-23-2011, 10:38 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-24-2011, 04:10 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-24-2011, 10:05 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-24-2011, 09:21 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by βαθμιαίος - 06-24-2011, 09:57 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-24-2011, 10:14 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-23-2011, 10:22 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-23-2011, 10:33 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-23-2011, 01:01 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-23-2011, 01:15 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-23-2011, 01:56 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-23-2011, 02:13 PM

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