Guardians from the Octave above

[unity100]

- not everyone's lessons are the lesson of choicemaking in 3d.

Is that your own perception or you found something in the material that makes you think that way?

i already outlined the 2 bits of information that were in the material that lead to my conclusion, not to mention my own observations, or basic logic of what we have been taught.

In Ras quote, he says one must coinsiously understand that you DON'T understand. We are all Human, regardless of where we were before coming to 3d earth. We ALL have to admit that we don't understand. I get what your saying unity, but Ra makes it pretty clear.

in case you didnt notice, what you speak above does not say anything about NOT attempting to understand.

the point some of you have been going, was in that direction - 'we cant understand'.

it is the very fact that you dont understand, you need to come to a place where you can learn and understand. this is the entire point of existence, leave aside 3d anyway.

why can't you think you understand?

Turtle hit the nail on the head. Its not that I don't believe I Semi understand far advanced concepts. But I coinsiously understand that my knowledge of the universe is comparable to a grain of sand on an endless beech

and so, you are choosing not to attempt to understand ....

My reading of unity's post says that most everyone in the b4th community are Wanderers or equivalent and, therefore, made their Choice back when they were native to 3D.

more or less, as such.

IMHO, few or no native 3Ders will be attracted to this information because it looks kooky, bizarre, unintelligible, or not applicable to their situations.

leave aside that, the choicemaking involves other-selves. and a 3d entity is not an entity which is able to manufacture its own catalyst without need from other selves to a great degree. it is not like a 5, 6d entity which can wander in thought/feeling with the tiniest of fluctuations in its psyche, or, easily attracting a thought/feeling from time/space when concentrating on it.

so, 3d entities would need situations, events, interaction with other entities. if you add the choicemaking necessity to this, it becomes a pronounced necessity that these entities mostly deal with situations involving other selves during their experience.

it is of course possible that any 3d entity gets interested in this information, but, bulk of their work is less likely to be with this information.

But jokes aside - does understanding of LOO directly implies that you are living it, hence making the choice? And I thought that Wanderers, who submitted themselves to 3D rules, are subjects to the same rules in order to graduate as the natives? Otherwise it would, for instance, not be any risks for, say, negative Wanderers to enter the forgetfulness, if Wanderers are not subjects to the Harvest rules.

these are big, broad questions, each a discussion topic probably.

But jokes aside - does understanding of LOO directly implies that you are living it, hence making the choice?

actions speak louder than words. understanding is one thing, acting accordingly another. but, for those who understand it, not acting along will directly bring results in regard to law of responsibility. they may choose to undergo the burdens that law brings and live on. if an entity understands, it is highly possible that it is not a native 3d entity.

And I thought that Wanderers, who submitted themselves to 3D rules, are subjects to the same rules in order to graduate as the natives?

mention of wanderer returning to its native density was in the material. if an entity did not get caught up in the planetary vibration, and reduced its spiritual biases perpetually to 3d vibrations, it is still a wanderer. i dont think any kind of graduation is applicable.

otherwise does not hold correct - if a wanderer immediately became a 3d entity entirely, subject to harvest, graduation from 3d and whatnot, it would mean that the entity would undergo the entire route from 3d to wherever it came from, again. no such thing exists, therefore, wanderers' situation in an 3d planet is different - unless, they make themselves 3d again, by getting tangled.