(06-16-2011, 11:38 PM)Icaro Wrote:(06-16-2011, 09:09 PM)zenmaster Wrote: The other-self, at least unconsciously, recognizes and respects the valuable potential, or ethical integrity, being expressed by the intention of one that knows better than to just please. That is, even if they seem to be demanding coddling or appeasement. 'Love' is the expression of individuality that has formed (or 'crystalized') from the opportunities, or 'systems of distortions' provided by the Logos.
Sure..if only they would express it consciously more often! Most people do not recognize the self-serving aspects that come with expectations. Parents for example naturally want what's best for their child. The stronger a parent places expectations and ideals on the child, the more self-serving the act becomes. Morals and ethics are one thing, but many parents expect a certain life-path which doesn't embrace the individuality of the child.
But as important as nurturing support for individuality is, they don't know any better (they haven't given it to themselves either) and, presumably, the preincarnative choice for the child was to experience that particular suitable constraint of their parental bias.
(06-16-2011, 11:38 PM)Icaro Wrote:That's true and what I was addressing. The 'questions' are not real questions, they're unconscious expectations that lead to discovery of one's nature. Society or 'social complex' does the exact same thing, that is a collection of individuals unconsciously asking questions - drawing the inevitable from the 'void'.Quote:If you've already 'asked the questions' that have lead to a certain degree of balance in an area, then it is less likely that you'd be asking for distorted information (unconsciously or conciously) in that area.
I was coming from the perspective that the more you understand of yourself and your surroundings in an esoteric sense, the more you become open to the subtleties of the illusory reality. I was making a link with your transpersonal mind statement.
One of the subtleties of the illusory reality is seeing the underpinnings of thought - that which we use to 'know' - the noumenal or principled realm vs phenomenal or functional realm. The noumenal is the next step. It may be 'higher', but it is more fundamental, it precedes or encapsulates this 'reality'. There are also different aspects of being that contribute to our understanding of 'reality', which are important to recognize in order to appreciate (or contextualize) 'truth'.
Favorite verse from Tao Te Ching:
To quicken things, but not to own;
To make, but not to claim;
To raise, but not to seize the throne:
That is eternal fame.
And one from my username-sake Hui Neng:
Have your mind like unto space and yet entertain in it no thought of emptiness. Then the truth will have its full dynamics unimpeded. Every movement of yours will come out of an innocent heart, and the ignorant and the wise will have an equal treatment in your hands.