(06-13-2011, 06:54 PM)unity100 Wrote:. And I feel in the same regards you Preach your views of the Law of One. And you defend your beliefs vigorously. I found the discussion entertaining. That dosent mean I have to feel it was handled with respect. In a since the "christ coinsiousness" is the "Lord" of a 4d sphere. To someone with a diffrent terminology and perspective they may misinterprate this info being preceived. I agree, in re reading Vbaba preached, but when you feel backed into a corner by a million questions at once that's a lot of pressure. I'm not passing judgment on anyone, I'm just saying as a forum I guess I just expected Bring4th to be a little more accepting of outside perspective... But its all good I wish Vbaba much love and light in their journey! As I wish you all, there's only Love!!(06-13-2011, 05:04 PM)111 Wrote: I was under the impession this was the bring4th forum, not just a LOO forum. As in bring all of the vibrations of 4th density. Not just the LOO side of the story. So in that respect bombarding Vbada in the Wanderer Story forum of all places was kinda rude. That's a place where people who haven't fit in their whole life are supposed to have to feel safe and share things they have experienced. If vbada had shared this in the Strictly Law of One section (and there is a forum strictly related to the Ra material. This would have been a better place to scrutinize Vbabas words as opposed to question everything on there personal experience. I feel iit was handeled wrong.
lets break it down to plainspeak :
noone has the right to preach others his/her perspective, and expect to not questioned/challenged about it.
that is not called sharing, it is called preaching.
the person in question did not only participate in the wanderer stories thread, sharing his/her subjective experience. there are a lot of people doing that, and they are not being challenged as to their subjective experiences - vbaba participated in many other threads OUTSIDE wanderer stories forum, and started preaching his perspective about a lot of things.
people, naturally have asked his/her sources or rationalizations for those. it doesnt have to be a forum related to Ra material for that - it can and should be done in any forum.
even if s/he did it only in wanderer stories forum, it would still be natural to ask questions/challenge. there is a point where a subjective experience/story passes to being preaching to others - and that's the point when it touches a lot of common subjects that interest/affect many people, and no source/reasoning provided for what is being told.
(06-13-2011, 06:26 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote:(06-13-2011, 05:03 PM)Namaste Wrote: Yes one can put the blame in her hands only, as she chose to leave, but can every single person involved honestly say there was not a single ounce of negativity aimed at her?
Good food for contemplation.
i didnt see any 'ounce' of negativity. of course, everyone has different interpretations of negativity, as can be seen from what vbaba says 'questions are ok but persecution isnt'.
and i expect a lot of people who are thinking like him/her, would take questioning when they say 'jesus is the lord of this planet' or similar stuff, as something negative.
it is not.
(06-13-2011, 12:05 PM)ahktu Wrote: I think this is the true basis of forming a memory complex. How can bazillions of people be expected to just mesh together seamlessly? Various issues will have to be aired...various personality discrepancies will have to be accepted and balanced. All the skeletons need to come out of the closet, in their various forms. It seems to me like some people would love to pretend that everything is perfect, and that a good relationship involves never disagreeing with anyone or having any sort of problems, ever. In my opinion, this is delusion and little more.
My husband says that it was when we had our first fight...and stayed together after...that he knew our relationship was strong. It's typical for us to have some huge falling out every few months (at least), usually over something stupid. We scream at each other and slam doors and throw temper tantrums, and then when it's all out we observe the pieces and start sticking them back together again, because we value our relationship more than our pride. When we fight, I do not think "Ugh! I can no longer be with this person!" I think "This is helping us find out new things about each other, so we can get along better in the future." A world without any sort of conflict...I think I'd run away from that as quickly as possible, because it would be fake.
I think that a lot of people, especially wanderers and the like, are experiencing a great deal of sensitivity right now. Just look at my little outburst a month or so back. I got so angry and offended over nothing. The energy is so extremely high right now, I feel constantly on edge. A lot of hidden truth is coming to light, and some of it is hard to digest. Just about everyone I've talked to is experiencing the same thing...emotions running amok, tempers flaring, and a growing inability to express anything through words. Perhaps a bit of understanding and tolerance on all sides is what is needed most. This is the middle of the storm that will usher in a new way of life. It's supposed to be stormy! S**t happens...without it, we'd all still be sitting in caves talking in grunts.
This is the explosion that forms the star.
<3 this BTW