06-13-2011, 07:03 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-13-2011, 07:05 PM by Bring4th_Austin.)
(06-13-2011, 05:37 PM)unity100 Wrote: i actually didnt say that non harvestable entities avoided this clock strike at all. they may not have avoided it.
Our bodies came from somewhere. I guess you could say that aliens placed more human bodies on Earth after the cycles, but Occam's Razor would suggest there was a continuation of the gene pool.
Quote:Quote:Is it not possible that this clock strike only effects time/space, and entities are not aware of it until their arrival into time/space after they depart space/time? Otherwise, how did it discern these entities during the first two cycles? The clock struck, the gateway to intelligent infinity opened...but only for polarized individuals?
'only time/space' seems to ascribe little importance to events happening in time/space.
anything affecting entire time/space, will affect us totally and directly. our feelings, thoughts, everything take place in time/space after all. a time/space manifestation without a physical body is possible, but a space/time manifestation without a time/space presence is not.
There's much within time/space that we cannot access from our space/time incarnations, what if the gateway to intelligent infinity is one of them? The veil could easily block this.
Also, Ra said 4D vibrations were primarily within time/space at the time of the contact. This is evidence that something can be affecting time/space and not space/time.
Quote:entities can open the gateway to intelligent infinity during incarnation. this was mentioned in a few occasions in Ra material.
Because they can, does that mean it will be forced upon them when harvest comes? Will intelligent infinity abridge free will?
Quote:Quote:This still doesn't change the fact that the information is prophetic regarding metaphysical mechanics with no application in our daily lives. How do you apply information regarding harvest in your philosophical and spiritual views of life, besides preparing yourself for the supposed date? What does it teach us about spirituality and philosophy?
gateway to intelligent infinity will be accessible for anyone who is able to access it. this is something major. that affects everything in an entity's life.
But it doesn't yet, and you can't prove that the event will actually happen. It is prophetic, no different from Christians believe the rapture will arrive on May 15th. Yeah, the rapture being here will affect everything in every entities life, that doesn't change the fact it's a prophecy of future events.
Quote:(06-13-2011, 03:34 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote:Quote:10.9 Questioner: When graduation occurs at the end of a cycle, and entities are moved from one planet to another, by what means do they go to a new planet?
Ra: I am Ra. In the scheme of the Creator, the first step of the mind/body/spirit/totality/beingness is to place its mind/body/spirit complex distortion in the proper place of love/light. This is done to ensure proper healing of the complex and eventual attunement with the totality/beingness complex. This takes a very variable length of your time/space. After this is accomplished the experience of the cycle is dissolved and filtered until only the distillation of distortions in its pure form remains.At this time, the harvested mind/body/spirit/totality/beingness evaluates the density needs of its beingness and chooses the more appropriate new environment for either a repetition of the cycle or a moving forward into the next cycle. This is the manner of the harvesting, guarded and watched over by many.
"This take a variable length of your time/space." Even if all are harvested at the same exact moment, the process will still take varying amounts of time, possibly hundreds or thousands of years.
first,notice that all these happen after graduation.
Ra says "this is the manner of harvesting," implying that this process itself is included in the harvest.
Quote:second, there is the totality involved. totality can place the entity at any point in time, space. this may take a very variable amount of our time, but, it doesnt have to be in our time/space on this planet. it can be any nexus.
Considering that it is this nexus being evaluated to determine the nexus immediately following, I would think it is logical to assume that it takes place in this nexus.
Quote:Quote:Ra uses the clock analogy for something we know is gradual. Yes, it is regularized as the striking of a clock, but that doesn't mean it is instant. It only means that it for sure will happen at a certain time, not a certain instant.
arrival of 4d with the end of the 3d cycle with the clock mechanism is analogy here. 3d cycle ends with the clock, 4d cycle starts. the end of the cycle and start of 4d cycle are therefore precisely timed.
Right, and we know that the switch to 4D in space/time isn't instant, it is a process, while a precisely timed process, still a gradual process. The arrival of 4D energy is as the striking of a clock, yet when it arrived some years ago, everything was not instantly switched to 4D. And as 3D vibrations disappear in a year or so, Ra still says the transition will take hundreds of years. And so, while the arrival of the energy is like the striking of a clock, the transition is not as instant as the striking of a clock. Since Ra used this same analogy for harvest, we can allow the same assumption that harvest might be precisely timed to arrive, but doesn't happen in the instant of a clock strike.
Quote:arrival of 4d, is not 'passage to 4d bodies'. what's gradual is, passage to 4d bodies.
The transition of the Earth is also gradual, and that is what was being specifically described as the striking of a clock.
Quote:13.23 Questioner: How does a third-density planet become a fourth density planet?
Ra: I am Ra. This will be the last full question.
The fourth density is, as we have said, as regularized in its approach as the striking of a clock upon the hour. The space/time of your solar system has enabled this planetary sphere to spiral into space/time of a different vibrational configuration. This causes the planetary sphere to be able to be molded by these new distortions. However, the thought-forms of your people during this transition period are such that the mind/body/spirit complexes of both individual and societies are scattered throughout the spectrum instead of becoming able to grasp the needle, shall we say, and point the compass in one direction.
40.8 Questioner: Then what will be the time of transition on this planet from third to fourth-density?
Ra: I am Ra. This is difficult to estimate due to the uncharacteristic anomalies of this transition. There are at this space/time nexus beings incarnate which have begun fourth-density work. However, the third-density climate of planetary consciousness is retarding the process. At this particular nexus the possibility/probability vortices indicate somewhere between 100 and 700 of your years as transition period. This cannot be accurate due to the volatility of your peoples at this space/time.
So while it is as regularized as the striking of a clock, it still takes 100 to 700 years.
I understand this is not talking about harvest, but the transition to 4D. I am simply pointing this out because Ra used the analogy for both.
Quote:(06-13-2011, 04:01 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: However, the point about the non-harvestable entities 25,000 years ago is intriguing. The issue there, though, is the one Austin referred to: "all are harvested" this time.
yes indeed, the point about non harvestable entities 25,000 years ago is intriguing, and we dont have any recognizable traces of remains of civilizations from 1st and 2nd cycles.
Again, I would consider the existence of the human race proof that there were surviving humans after those cycles.
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