(06-03-2011, 12:34 AM)Ankh Wrote:(06-02-2011, 05:32 PM)Oceania Wrote: Ra messed up
I am not adressing this question to you only, but to everybody who thinks in that way, because I've heard that before! How did Ra "messed up"? They came and tried to teach/learn. Their message got distorted, perverted and whatnot by humans.
2.2 [...] Ra: I am Ra. [...] It was our naїve belief that we could teach/learn by direct contact and the free will distortions of individual feeling or personality were in no danger, we thought, of being disturbed as these cultures were already closely aligned with an all-embracing belief in the live-ness or consciousness of all. [...] However, we have never left your vibration due to our responsibility for the changes in consciousness we had first caused and then found distorted in ways not relegated to the Law of One. [...]
23.6 [...] Ra: I am Ra. [...] We discovered that for each word we could utter, there were thirty impressions we gave by our very being, which confused those entities we had come to serve. After a short period we removed ourselves from these entities and spent much time attempting to understand how best to serve those to whom we had offered ourselves in love/light. [...]
23.10 [...] Ra: I am Ra. [...] Thus, we would perhaps be in the position of paradox in that as one saw an illumination, we were what you call successful, and as others became more sorrowful and confused, we were failures.
... In my view, Ra should have understood the possibility beforehand (I would say certainty, but I understand why an STO entity could be naïve in this way.) Just like everyone else, they're around to learn as much as to teach, so mishaps are bound to happen.
Quote:They left in physical form, but never left our vibration. We can not take the responsibility for how our communication will be interpreted by others because each has a Free Will to understand/distort teachings in whatever way they desire.
I don't agree. At the very least, I would say that it is a shared responsibility. Avoiding this responsibility sounds a great deal like avoiding the STO/STS polarity to me.
Quote:STS, whether there is a question of communication or other interaction, whether there is a direct or indirect contact, is still teaching others when they teach their philosophy, ie serving others. In that sense the interaction is not more "STS being STS" than "STO being STO".
I don't agree. I can go as far as saying that a side effect of going through the STS path can be a catalyst for STO entities, but that is a side effect and not the intention itself.
(06-03-2011, 01:21 AM)Azrael Wrote: I'm really quite convinced the whole point of the two paths is to realize that they collapse in to eachother. Learning unity by experiencing separation.
Partly correct from the entity perspective. From a larger holistic perspective it has more to do with progress and "evolution." Without two paths and two polarities, there is a huge lack of motivation and incentive to make progress. If I remember Ra correctly, without the two paths, progress is still made, but immensely slower.
So, why i say "partly correct" is that you said "learning unity by experiencing separation." You can learn more about unity without, but not easily as fast.