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    07-06-2009, 01:12 PM (This post was last modified: 07-06-2009, 01:39 PM by pluralone.)
    Taha Wrote:I've mentioned here and there of having OBEs and travelling all over in what people call 'light ships' but which are simply reality bubbles which move where you want, not machines. However, in all my journeys all I learned was to remember who I am and who my light companions are, but gained no great insights into life which helped me become an uber-being in this world. (In fact, those who aspire to that almost always have money and sex as their goal, I find).

    I don't know how to say this other than to preface with, I intend no offense (which is usually a good indicator that what follows could cause offense anyway), but I just have to say those seem to me like terribly judgmental statements, Taha. That your experience of light ships differs from those of others merely means the ones you've used are not machines. I've spoken with enough very aware folks whose experience of light ships is that they are, in fact, machines to have come to the conclusion that the definition of "light ship" can vary dramatically from one rider to the next... and still be equally valid descriptions.

    The other statement? I just don't understand why... Is it necessary, really, to support one's own understanding by making negative comparisons with others?

    Yes, we are free to express ourselves here as we are so compelled, and I'm not writing this for the purpose of censorship. I have no expectations or recommendations regarding what 'should' be done about it; I don't believe anything should be done, per se. The statements are what they are, and I'm not saying you 'shouldn't' have made them. I just wanted to share my feelings with no more intent than to get the weight off my chest.
    plur
    Taha Wrote:I feel that when enough people on this world wake up and realise that genuine love and peace can't be dictated to the masses, that control just doesn't work well, then a 'top heavy' point will be reached which will slowly but surely tip consensus reality into a new way of being.

    This is my understanding as well -- not that it will happen, necessarily, but that the opportunity for this to occur has arisen again during the current transitional phase this physical universe is going through. Whether it will happen this time or not may still be a bit up in the air, but I do believe it could, and I work from a perspective that assumes it will.

    3D Sunset Wrote:One may criticize this approach as being error-prone, as it includes my own assessment and judgment as to what is warranted...

    In regards to energetic (as opposed to material or physical) support and healing work, in acknowledgment that just because something seems to need doing doesn't mean that's really what's needed, and that I cannot possibly perceive the Big Picture from here, I preface my energy work with "If it will promote the highest good..." Not saying everyone should function that way; it's just how I approach the question of whether or not I'm truly doing the right thing.

    3D Sunset Wrote:Rather than asking what is the point of others' pain, torment and horror, why not ask what is the point of our own? Do we not provide ourselves these challenges in order to grow? As a parent, I find myself constantly struggling with the instinct to protect my children from all possible pains and sorrows. But how are they to grow without experiencing these challenges and persevering? Does not my higher self feel the same about me? Don't I need to encounter and overcome challenges in order to grow?

    Oh man, Sunset, I so hear that. I used to really stress over the stoopid decisions my kids have made, but then - as you said - I realized they need to make their own mistakes because mistakes are great opportunities for personal evolution. At times I'll offer feedback regarding decisions when it seems warranted, but I tell them, "I'm only going to say this once," offer my opinion, and conclude with assurances that I understand they will make the right decisions for themselves and that I will support their decisions - and promise not to say "I told you so" if they make mistakes. Keeps the lines of communication open, with them knowing I'm not going to judge them negatively.
    plur

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    Freedom. - by Turtle - 06-23-2009, 03:09 AM
    RE: Freedom. - by ayadew - 06-23-2009, 05:02 AM
    RE: Freedom. - by Turtle - 06-23-2009, 12:11 PM
    RE: Freedom. - by Ali Quadir - 06-23-2009, 06:15 PM
    RE: Freedom. - by Turtle - 06-23-2009, 10:55 PM
    RE: Freedom. - by Ali Quadir - 06-24-2009, 07:59 AM
    RE: Freedom. - by Bruno - 06-24-2009, 11:13 AM
    RE: Freedom. - by fairyfarmgirl - 06-24-2009, 10:54 AM
    RE: Freedom. - by Bruno - 06-24-2009, 12:43 PM
    RE: Freedom. - by Turtle - 06-24-2009, 01:04 PM
    RE: Freedom. - by Ali Quadir - 06-24-2009, 01:51 PM
    RE: Freedom. - by Bruno - 06-24-2009, 04:28 PM
    RE: Freedom. - by Sirius - 06-25-2009, 09:46 AM
    RE: Freedom. - by Turtle - 06-26-2009, 04:56 AM
    RE: Freedom. - by Sirius - 06-26-2009, 09:23 PM
    RE: Freedom. - by Turtle - 06-27-2009, 04:48 PM
    RE: Freedom. - by pluralone - 06-30-2009, 11:10 PM
    RE: Freedom. - by 3D Sunset - 07-01-2009, 10:09 AM
    RE: Freedom. - by xlsander - 07-01-2009, 04:31 AM
    RE: Freedom. - by Turtle - 07-06-2009, 07:48 AM
    RE: Freedom. - by pluralone - 07-06-2009, 01:12 PM
    RE: Freedom. - by pluralone - 07-06-2009, 03:17 PM
    RE: Freedom. - by pluralone - 07-06-2009, 07:28 PM

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