01-07-2009, 11:49 PM
I appreciate your reply and will check out that session.
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My statement about animals in the first world is that, in our modernized societies so many of us keep animals as "pets" and have constant interactions with them on a daily basis, thus being in a learn/teach teach/learn situation. I am of the assumption that by living in that environment, by interacting with humans constantly and in a loving manner, animals are gaining experiences that are allowing them to progress the path from 2d to 3d at an accelerated pace vs. their counterparts that may be existing in a less than loving situation (I.E. work animals/food animals/strays)
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you stated "The window is closing to any new incarnations of those who want to make their choice here."
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Are you saying that any who incarnated past that point do not have a choice? I was of the understanding that even at the final moment we could deny the opportunity to move forwards. Or are you saying that the "choice" to go from 3D to 4D is already decided if they incarnated past that point, but the ability to choose not too still remains?
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That is the purpose of free will after all... to have a choice.
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Also, you said that "Some are Wanderers, some are dual-activated..and some are the last of the 3D entities, in their last 3D incarnation here....." Does that mean that no humans who have incarnated here beyond that point are 3D? All children being born are beyond 3D? I don't know how well that resonates with me. I know many many people in my age group who do not resonate love, wisdom, compassion, or any of the traits of an STO entity. As a matter of fact the majority of people in my age group I have known (I had a rough upbringing, I was poor and in a high crime area) have been very much STS oriented...
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Now if you are saying that.. for example.. someone was born in 1986, they were 3D, they died, they could not incarnate again because they already came once after that tipping point so they couldn't experience a second 3D incarnation here? Since it is their last 3D incarnation?
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That's the beauty of this dance I suppose, every seeker has an original view and no one truly has the answers. All we can do is stand and wonder, whether or not we wonder aloud is a matter of free will
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As to whether or not I am a wanderer. I put thought into it in the past, but I have come to the opinion that whether I am or I am not is inconsequential, for in the now I am me and the me I am is wonderful Regardless of its origins. Wanderer, StarSeed, Ascended Master, Messiah and Devil. All are simply titles and titles only serve to separate.
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Also... I am hesitant about having children for many reasons. The lack of knowledge about the possible effects of an esoteric science is one of the less pertinent of them. It is more my wanting to give the child every opportunity to experience the love and abundance I did not have for my youth. More so a out loud musing of thoughts than something that is actually applicable to my personal experience
Suppose I could have been more clear about that in the beginning.
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Once again thank you for your reply, I never got into the Q'uo material much, perhaps I should give it a read as well...
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My statement about animals in the first world is that, in our modernized societies so many of us keep animals as "pets" and have constant interactions with them on a daily basis, thus being in a learn/teach teach/learn situation. I am of the assumption that by living in that environment, by interacting with humans constantly and in a loving manner, animals are gaining experiences that are allowing them to progress the path from 2d to 3d at an accelerated pace vs. their counterparts that may be existing in a less than loving situation (I.E. work animals/food animals/strays)
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you stated "The window is closing to any new incarnations of those who want to make their choice here."
.
Are you saying that any who incarnated past that point do not have a choice? I was of the understanding that even at the final moment we could deny the opportunity to move forwards. Or are you saying that the "choice" to go from 3D to 4D is already decided if they incarnated past that point, but the ability to choose not too still remains?
.
That is the purpose of free will after all... to have a choice.
.
Also, you said that "Some are Wanderers, some are dual-activated..and some are the last of the 3D entities, in their last 3D incarnation here....." Does that mean that no humans who have incarnated here beyond that point are 3D? All children being born are beyond 3D? I don't know how well that resonates with me. I know many many people in my age group who do not resonate love, wisdom, compassion, or any of the traits of an STO entity. As a matter of fact the majority of people in my age group I have known (I had a rough upbringing, I was poor and in a high crime area) have been very much STS oriented...
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Now if you are saying that.. for example.. someone was born in 1986, they were 3D, they died, they could not incarnate again because they already came once after that tipping point so they couldn't experience a second 3D incarnation here? Since it is their last 3D incarnation?
.
That's the beauty of this dance I suppose, every seeker has an original view and no one truly has the answers. All we can do is stand and wonder, whether or not we wonder aloud is a matter of free will
.
As to whether or not I am a wanderer. I put thought into it in the past, but I have come to the opinion that whether I am or I am not is inconsequential, for in the now I am me and the me I am is wonderful Regardless of its origins. Wanderer, StarSeed, Ascended Master, Messiah and Devil. All are simply titles and titles only serve to separate.
.
Also... I am hesitant about having children for many reasons. The lack of knowledge about the possible effects of an esoteric science is one of the less pertinent of them. It is more my wanting to give the child every opportunity to experience the love and abundance I did not have for my youth. More so a out loud musing of thoughts than something that is actually applicable to my personal experience
Suppose I could have been more clear about that in the beginning..
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Once again thank you for your reply, I never got into the Q'uo material much, perhaps I should give it a read as well...