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    04-25-2011, 07:18 PM (This post was last modified: 04-25-2011, 08:52 PM by hogey11.)
    Quote:if you see referencing the material we are supposedly speaking on here, as ME having authority over you, this is your problem.

    I am merely speaking of your style. I feel there should be an amount of humility here, in that we are not speaking of 'hard science', but instead about channeled material from a 3rd party. Allow others to spread their wings and fly with their ideas, rather than point out every small inconsistency you can find that clashes with your own personal opinions.

    The fact is that you often misunderstand the semantics involved and end up creating a whole bunch of misunderstanding purely due to your insistence that everyone fit their ideas through your own filter.

    Quote:prediction is something that is made regarding the FUTURE outcome of events, which can change at any point in time by the choice of entities. the very prediction being made itself, can change the timeline due to other entities becoming aware of the prediction, and making choices for or against it. and this is why Ra has refrained from making any predictions as much as possible, and when they have made it, they explicitly stated the possibility of other choices always exist.

    however, speaking of the mechanics, nature and workings of this creation, like everything having 7 chakras, like there being positive and negative, like positive and negative entities and society complexes behaving in particular ways in regard to those rays,

    these are not things we do not know. these are information. not predictions.

    and, you cant just put the two in the same basket, and attempt to disregard the very mechanics that were created by the logos of this universe, saying that some prediction didnt come to being.

    there is nothing to be humble about it ; gravity exists. it pulls you towards the object you are standing on. how you feel on that matter, or, what some source says about it, or your choice of food tomorrow, does not change anything in regard to existence of gravity or its properties.

    OK, lets get philosophical here:

    So are you saying that there are only a predetermined set of choices before us? I am saying that you are claiming that NO STS entity would ever tell the truth to anybody, for any reason, and frankly, that is restrictive. How can you doubt Intelligent Infinity like this? Essentially, you are saying 'This is impossible.' That's crap; nothing is impossible.

    So, please teach me: What are the mechanics involved here? Where does it say that a STS entity, regardless of Confederation contract, will refuse to ever tell the truth in any circumstance, even if the end result could not be affected?

    Saying "No, that won't work." is that easiest thing in the world; I can do it all day. Finding out how it can work is harder, but much more satisfying.

    Quote:you are believing a source that EXPLICITLY states itself to be a member of a path that lies on dominating others after enslaving them through lies, deception, confusion, suppression.

    sorry, but, the one who should rationalize and justify here, is not me, or Ra. it is you, someone who believes such a source.

    what has been explained in Ra material, now dubbed as 'my personal understanding', is less valid than a source that explicitly confesses to be on a path that is for enslavement and domination for others ?

    I am not aware of this EXPLICIT statement. Please show me where Ra states a higher density negative entity will only lie and not tell the truth? If this is the case, can I then play opposites and just do the opposite, therefore finding the truth? Seems like a pretty easy game to play....

    You sit here and spit hate at everyone's sources, but you don't even provide your great evidence yourself? The fact is we don't know all the rules, nor do we know when those rules change.

    Quote:oh - and the supposed 6d negative entity, which was even past the stage of 5d wisdom that would enable the foresight that it would require, was unable to think that the 3d entity was to share this information.

    yes. they totally wouldnt have judged that possibility.

    no. they not only would have judged that possibility, but also they would have sought to effect that possibility, and provide all the information to that 3d entity based on that possibility.

    yes - to make people exactly like you believe them.

    So, if this is true, what happened with Ra? When they came to earth, wouldn't they have seen the future like you are supposing here? Why did they fail, when they knew their tools would be taken and distorted, creating the inroads the Orion entities needed to start influencing the planet?

    What you are saying here disrespects Ra greatly, for if a 6D entity could foretell the future, there would be no reason for failure.

    So for you to say that it would be obviously seen and stopped by the 6D entities completely takes away from Free Will, the first directive of the creator. I refuse to think this is how it is, for the Creator would not allow such an infringement of free will. Also, if this were true, wouldn't have Ra warned Don about the psychic attacks when he commited suicide? They wanted their work to be done and recorded, so it would make no sense that they would not help.

    You seem to pick and choose these examples to only support you when you want them to. I don't agree with this strategy.

    Quote:yes, however what some source that professes to be service to SELF, resonates with you, more than someone's fact-checking resonates with you.

    you are opting to believe a source that declares itself to be service to self.

    i dont know what we are even discussing here. someone serving self has no obligations to tell the truth to you, and has the liberty of using any means to enslave someone as long as they accept it.

    I am very glad you brought this up.

    What is it, exactly, that I believe? What has this source taught me that is so egregious? What am I to be fearful of?

    Please tell me. What are the dangers?

    Are we not all from the One? Can there not be anything learned from our brothers on the other side of the spectrum?

    Maybe i'm foolish, but I refuse the absolute rejection of anything. I love all... Even hidden_hand.


    And Monica, you were bang on. I was referring to my 'indigo child' behaviors, as I tend to get upset with those who assert authority quite often in my life... Tongue

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