06-24-2009, 01:51 PM
(06-24-2009, 01:04 PM)Turtle Wrote: Like whatever Bruno is talking about with vampirism and energy, sorry bro but I read a little bit of the post and immediately felt like it was unimportant to me. Nothing personal, but I don't believe in any of that.
I would agree... I never judged you as negative. And I don't believe in vampires, psychic or otherwise. I just called you a renunciate. There is no negativity in denying yourself pleasure. It's just hard to live through. Or at least harder than it needs to be.
That's all I accuse you of... Denying yourself pleasure. Which is of course exactly your right and your personal decision. Neither Bruno or I have the right to tell you to do otherwise. And for my part let me assure you I'm just sharing my point of view. I would like you to feel more at home. But not against your own wishes.
If we look behind renunciation there is usually idealism and I believe this to be the case for you. We do not accept a weak variant of that which we see and that which we consider our true goals. Which is essentially the platonic connection with a concept behind the veils of the 3d world. In your case a heaven like world that you remember and identify as your home.
In many ways this is the right thing to do.. If you are in love with a woman and she is unavailable, it'd be stupid to take the next woman that offers herself. Renunciation has it's place. But it needs to be applied with (the magick word) discernment.
There is a tarot card of a man sitting beneath a tree. He has three cups in front of him.. From these he will not drink. The hand of God appears from nowhere and offers him a fourth cup. Which he also will not drink... I try to say that at a certain point what you call your lot in life becomes your choice in life, don't forget
Bruno I do think I understand what you describe when you say you drew down a shell thinking it to be the higher self and got a scare... I got a similar scare once in a way I could describe with the same words. To me too the outcome was positive. But the event was heavy. There are many ways a shell can come into existence. Basically it's human remains in the psychic stream. A soul less mind. Usually quite hungry because they lost their own source. Usually in varying states of dissolving into it's components. All ghost stories are based on these.. I think this is a different topic however and deserves it's own thread.