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    04-20-2011, 12:58 PM
    (04-20-2011, 04:14 AM)Spectrum Wrote:
    hogey11 Wrote:The historical Jesus was driven and passionate; the exact opposite of the quiet, temperate Jesus the church has turned him into.

    hogey11, I also find your views on Jesus' temperament interesting. There are many stories indicating that he was more of a renegade/'rebel with a cause' type of guy, and not so much the 'saint'.

    The only thing I'd like to point out, is that I don't think he lived his life the way he did after the incident with the boy he killed in an attempt to rid himself of the karma he acquired because of the incident, I think the karma he worked off was a natural outcome of his life choice he made after he killed the boy. Meaning, I don't think his driving force was ever about 'his own karma' to him, I think for him it was always about others.

    While he regretted the incident with the boy, and felt remorse and sorrow, I think it's a possibility that he might not have been consciously aware of the karma, or that he rid himself of the karma while still on earth (I'm sure he knew afterwards). When Ra talks about someone's earthly life, they see everything, from a time/space perspective, so 'they' know about such things as karma, polarity, vibrations, etc., but it might not have been consciously known by Jesus himself during his incarnation.

    Just a suggestion, though, I might be wrong :-/ He 'did' access intelligent infinity, so he did pierce the veil, so maybe he 'was' aware of these things, but even then, I don't think his own karma was the motivation behind his choices. It's kind of counter to STO, when it's about him or his own karma, and not others.

    When he accessed intelligent infinity, he must have become aware of where he came from (his real home), his pre-incarnative choice, and possibly his true nature (STO polarity nearing totality), so from then on he had his goal.

    He must have been 'really' cross with that boy. One concept I found very interesting with Jesus, was his compassion in abundance, lacking wisdom, leading to his martyr's choice.

    As mentioned in the new thread I started, I think it comes down to the "murder" being a pre-incarnative choice or not. I think your view could very well be the winning combination, but I could see it working differently. I am wondering if the plan was to saddle Jesus with a massive karma burden very early and have him penetrate the veil at that time, in order to impress a certain urgency and weight on his ministry. When Jesus pierces the veil, realizes that he just murdered somebody and will now have to somehow fix that within his lifetime. As far as how aware Jesus was of all this, i'm agreeing with you in that I have no idea... but its an interesting idea to explore.

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    hogey11 Wrote:Anyways, I really took an interest in the Gospel of Thomas

    What do you think of the Book of Revelations, with your theological background coupled with your knowledge of Ra? How do you interpret it? Which bible in your opinion is the most accurate translation to English?

    I can just imagine what must have been going through Jesus' mind when he became learned in Judaism. Since his life's mission was so threatening to the Orion agenda, his attacks (or "greetings") from higher density STS must have been quite intense. They definitely saw an entry where his anger was concerned, amongst others.

    I think the Book of Revelations is as it states it is: a vision.

    I think its laden with symbolism and hidden meaning, much of which is probably very culturally subtle and goes right over our heads. In terms of its veracity? Hard to say. A lot of the "checkmarks" it produced are being checked off, and it would seem that we are nearing the end of the story as it was told, so who knows? Maybe this John fellow (whoever he was) found himself some funny looking mushrooms and found a way to the 'other side' Tongue it might make sense too, considering how obsessed the early church was with the second coming. Many felt it was imminent, as if Jesus was just picking up his buddies and heading right back, so in terms of what would be on their minds at the time, an apocalypse/new earth would probably be high on the list. If John penetrated the veil through meditation/prayer/torture/chemicals, the question in his heart of hearts very well could have been "Show me what will happen"...


    I take in the bible much like I took in the Law of One; there are things that resonate and things that do not. A good example is that I'm not the biggest fan of Paul; I find him culturally stale and a little too rigid for my liking. Bigger fan of Peter, to be honest; i'm more of an emotional person so i relate better. Also, Paul's conversion story seems a little fishy to me - seems like there is a chance of Orion/Yahweh interference, but I could just be paranoid Tongue

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