04-15-2011, 01:33 PM
(This post was last modified: 04-15-2011, 01:50 PM by turtledude23.)
(04-15-2011, 01:15 PM)Spectrum Wrote:turtledude23 Wrote:Here I do see party leaders and individual MPs who seem to be half-decent people.
I'm sure they are there, but I think they are vastly outnumbered. Maybe they can do with some support.
I'm supporting them in every way I can right now, which is mainly sharing links on facebook and volunteering for the good party that will most likely win in my riding. I'm going to be studying journalism starting next month, the sooner I write for a large media outlet the sooner I can help them even more, then once I've learned all the ropes I intend to run as an MP - the good ones will have my help, the bad ones will have my public scrutiny.
(04-15-2011, 01:22 PM)3DMonkey Wrote:(04-15-2011, 11:43 AM)turtledude23 Wrote: anarchy, and that can not workthis is what you fear. Is government the answer? Has government really been a preventer of this? Or has government been an instigator of this?
Governments reduce crime and help facilitate communication technology and travel, lack of government doesn't.
Quote:(04-15-2011, 11:43 AM)turtledude23 Wrote: otherwise those who are truly STS (even more STS then you claim I'm being e.g. people like Stalin) would quickly take over and form their own dictatorship.this is what you fear. The only way to create a society of love is to be love. There is no other route to love. If you don't believe it is possible for love to "win out", then you don't believe it is possible for love to "win out."
I don't fear that, I recognize it as a possibility which I wouldn't consider ideal. Maybe love can win through my actions?
Quote:(04-15-2011, 11:43 AM)turtledude23 Wrote: What we have now is not perfect but it's better than living in a dictatorship.It is not ideal, but in the larger picture of existence, any scenario we find ourselves in is perfect. If, as you suspect, chaos and anarchy would rule the day, so be it. Catalyst in 3D is about experience to a significant part to transform into one of two ways. Government doesn't end catalyst, and why ask it to? Of course, the brilliance in the creation is that asking it to creates more catalyst opportunity.
Like someone said in that topic about helping people in Africa: there's no lack of catalyst on Earth. What Earth does need however is a society that can serve as a model for other societies to emulate so we can have a gradual transition toward a social memory complex.
Quote:The truth is that you are upset with current politics. This is okay. My view comes removed from emotional involvement in those politics. It is important to remember that the only way to change the world is to change our personal view. Our personal views are under our supervision and only our supervision, and these views are what contribute to the collective. What are you contributing to our collective as you contemplate your government?
I'm contributing the strong belief that authority can be wrong and should be questioned and that individuals can affect the world around them and aren't just powerless pawns meant to spend their whole lives conforming. Q'uo said:
Quote:Your culture does not encourage original thought. Your culture does not encourage inner-directed behavior and attitudes. Your culture has a consensus reality [1] which is endlessly materialistic. It is as though, with a sea all around you, your culture stands upon a tiny island and says, “This is the world. Do not go to the sea. Do not dive deep in unknown waters. Here in this garden where there is food to eat and work to do, live your life. Question nothing, accept authority, and make no waves. Do not paddle at the shores of the unknown.”
Quote:Turn to me now and hug me. Smile. Once you do, you will feel better. Don't deny yourself love. It is your choice. Find love for the politicians you disagree with. Give them a hug. Do it. Just do it, and then get back with me.
I see love in what I'm doing. I don't resent the politicians I dislike on a personal level, I dislike them having the opportunity to exercise their wishes over the masses.
Quote:(04-15-2011, 01:22 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: If you don't believe it is possible for love to "win out", then you don't believe it is possible for love to "win out."
What I mean here is that if you don't believe acting with love will win in a society without government, then you don't believe love will win by infiltrating the government. Which means you want to shove one side of government aside so that you can be the government, but in so doing you haven't changed any hierarchical structure. You've only become satisfied that your opinions are being processed at the higher level.
Love isn't achieved in this way.
Actually my main goals including changing the government structure itself and peoples knowledge of its workings so in the future it will easier for average peoples intentions to be voiced.