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    Thread: Metaphysical democracy?


    3DMonkey

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    04-15-2011, 01:22 PM
    (04-15-2011, 11:43 AM)turtledude23 Wrote: Think about what you're saying, the only 100% STO government would be no government,
    This is true.

    (04-15-2011, 11:43 AM)turtledude23 Wrote: anarchy, and that can not work
    this is what you fear. Is government the answer? Has government really been a preventer of this? Or has government been an instigator of this?

    (04-15-2011, 11:43 AM)turtledude23 Wrote: otherwise those who are truly STS (even more STS then you claim I'm being e.g. people like Stalin) would quickly take over and form their own dictatorship.
    this is what you fear. The only way to create a society of love is to be love. There is no other route to love. If you don't believe it is possible for love to "win out", then you don't believe it is possible for love to "win out."

    (04-15-2011, 11:43 AM)turtledude23 Wrote: What we have now is not perfect but it's better than living in a dictatorship.
    It is not ideal, but in the larger picture of existence, any scenario we find ourselves in is perfect. If, as you suspect, chaos and anarchy would rule the day, so be it. Catalyst in 3D is about experience to a significant part to transform into one of two ways. Government doesn't end catalyst, and why ask it to? Of course, the brilliance in the creation is that asking it to creates more catalyst opportunity.

    The truth is that you are upset with current politics. This is okay. My view comes removed from emotional involvement in those politics. It is important to remember that the only way to change the world is to change our personal view. Our personal views are under our supervision and only our supervision, and these views are what contribute to the collective. What are you contributing to our collective as you contemplate your government?

    Turn to me now and hug me. Smile. Once you do, you will feel better. Don't deny yourself love. It is your choice. Find love for the politicians you disagree with. Give them a hug. Do it. Just do it, and then get back with me.
    (04-15-2011, 01:22 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: If you don't believe it is possible for love to "win out", then you don't believe it is possible for love to "win out."

    What I mean here is that if you don't believe acting with love will win in a society without government, then you don't believe love will win by infiltrating the government. Which means you want to shove one side of government aside so that you can be the government, but in so doing you haven't changed any hierarchical structure. You've only become satisfied that your opinions are being processed at the higher level.
    Love isn't achieved in this way.

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    Metaphysical democracy? - by turtledude23 - 04-14-2011, 11:49 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by 3DMonkey - 04-14-2011, 11:57 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by turtledude23 - 04-15-2011, 12:47 AM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Confused - 04-15-2011, 12:37 AM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by 3DMonkey - 04-15-2011, 01:00 AM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by turtledude23 - 04-15-2011, 01:23 AM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by 3DMonkey - 04-15-2011, 09:18 AM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by turtledude23 - 04-15-2011, 11:36 AM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by unity100 - 04-15-2011, 06:03 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by drifting pages - 04-15-2011, 10:32 AM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Spectrum - 04-15-2011, 11:58 AM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Aaron - 04-15-2011, 12:13 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Spectrum - 04-15-2011, 12:20 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by turtledude23 - 04-15-2011, 01:09 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Spectrum - 04-15-2011, 01:15 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by turtledude23 - 04-15-2011, 01:33 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Confused - 04-15-2011, 08:34 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by turtledude23 - 04-16-2011, 01:27 AM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Confused - 04-16-2011, 01:31 AM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by turtledude23 - 04-16-2011, 01:37 AM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Confused - 04-16-2011, 01:51 AM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Ankh - 04-16-2011, 02:20 AM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Spectrum - 04-16-2011, 04:43 AM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Meerie - 04-16-2011, 04:50 AM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Spectrum - 04-16-2011, 05:00 AM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by unity100 - 04-15-2011, 10:42 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Confused - 04-15-2011, 11:08 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by unity100 - 04-15-2011, 11:12 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Confused - 04-16-2011, 12:15 AM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by 3DMonkey - 04-15-2011, 11:41 AM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by turtledude23 - 04-15-2011, 11:43 AM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by 3DMonkey - 04-15-2011, 01:22 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Ocean - 04-15-2011, 12:09 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Lorna - 04-15-2011, 01:51 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by turtledude23 - 04-15-2011, 01:56 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by 3DMonkey - 04-15-2011, 02:08 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by turtledude23 - 04-15-2011, 02:24 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by 3DMonkey - 04-15-2011, 02:32 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Ocean - 04-15-2011, 02:38 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by turtledude23 - 04-15-2011, 02:40 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by 3DMonkey - 04-15-2011, 02:43 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Spectrum - 04-15-2011, 02:52 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by 3DMonkey - 04-15-2011, 07:47 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Ocean - 04-15-2011, 08:14 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Ocean - 04-15-2011, 11:26 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Ocean - 04-16-2011, 12:31 AM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by 3DMonkey - 04-16-2011, 06:39 AM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Confused - 04-16-2011, 06:49 AM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Ankh - 04-16-2011, 04:58 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Confused - 04-16-2011, 09:01 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Spectrum - 04-16-2011, 06:51 AM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Confused - 04-16-2011, 07:47 AM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Spectrum - 04-16-2011, 07:51 AM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Confused - 04-16-2011, 07:56 AM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Spectrum - 04-16-2011, 01:08 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Ocean - 04-16-2011, 12:57 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Confused - 04-16-2011, 01:07 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by Ocean - 04-16-2011, 01:11 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by turtledude23 - 04-16-2011, 01:49 PM
    RE: Metaphysical democracy? - by 3DMonkey - 04-16-2011, 01:54 PM

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