(04-11-2011, 12:56 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: I'm sorry, Monica. Anyone who has tried to grow food or raise livestock knows that it is no easy task.
Nothing to be sorry for - it's ok to disagree!
I agree that raising livestock is 'no easy task' but I wasn't referring to that since I don't really consider that food.
I was referring to plant foods. There is a movement sweeping across the world right now, teaching people how to grow large amounts of food in small, urban yards.
(04-11-2011, 12:56 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: It requires more work and effort than working a cash register for forty hours a week, and the reward is much less. It would be virtually impossible for me to grow food to provide everday sustenance for my family. It takes a community. Communities have toiled with this aspect of existence for millenia. Any convenience brightens our existence. Toiling is not what I would call free, anymore than my freedom to work for money.
Well I don't really want to derail this thread with a discussion about the merits or practicality of sustainable living. My main point was that the need for free energy is to meet the needs of modern society. We wouldn't need free energy if we had simpler lifestyles and a more efficient food system. The present food system is very inefficient and is polluting the planet.
Whether we actually want to live in a simpler way, is debatable!
By 'simpler' I'm not referring to primitive. We already have technology for sustainable living by utilizing solar, wind, etc. Regarding food, growing fruit trees is easy. A few fruit trees, nut trees, and a vegetable garden is all you need. The extra tomatoes can be traded for the neighbor's extra peaches.
Personally, I would much rather spend 2 hours per day watering my garden, harvesting the produce, etc., and then another 1/2 hour putting the excess fruit in the dehydrator, than work in an office for 8 hours + spend another hour or more stuck in traffic. I find working in the garden pleasant, but working in an office or being stuck in traffic, unpleasant. But that's just me!
(04-11-2011, 02:28 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote: This is a very important point. It might be possible for some families to completely sustain themselves with the right knowledge and resources. But it is not realistic for every family
It would be more difficult for those living in colder climates, to be sure.
(04-11-2011, 02:28 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote: This is where I see myself working in the future...helping communities start sustainable community gardens. Moving into 4D vibes, spreading ideas like community gardens will hopefully become easier, and will be the foundation for a 4D society.
I feel very drawn to this vision, and am actively working towards it.
(04-11-2011, 02:28 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote: Of course, if you can supplement your family's diet with homegrown food even in the smallest way it will start to relieve pressure from the current system, allowing things to change.
Yes. And you'd be amazed at the huge amount of food that can be grown on even a very tiny yard, once we let go of our attachment to lawns!
(04-11-2011, 02:28 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote: we must make strides for change to make our society 4D compatible. If we don't try to change anything, especially regarding the systems of financial wealth and food distribution, then we will be caught in 3D concepts that will not sustain us as a planet.
There is no need to look for problems. They are already completely obvious.
(04-11-2011, 02:28 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote: We're here at this time because on the other side of the veil, we hoped we would realize this and make the changes.
Agreed!