04-10-2011, 09:37 PM
(04-10-2011, 08:54 PM)unity100 Wrote:And there is a better system for learning about oneself? I really don't think so. This is all on gracious loan and the free will to do what ever you want is always there if one bothers to learn about their own nature. Meanwhile they get the 'space/time' of the creation that suits their biases. That is the 'agreement'.(04-10-2011, 08:29 PM)zenmaster Wrote: Yes, it's unfortunate that we don't live in a paradise where everyone is a genius and can invent free energy and medical treatments for themselves. But we also 'agreed' to the limitations, otherwise there would be none.
that is not correct. we didnt agree to this kind of limitation. first, any entity from 3d entering 3d, had been practically forced into the veil. any entity incarnating into the planet as wanderers, had agreed to the veil.
(04-10-2011, 08:54 PM)unity100 Wrote: however this stays irrelevant - tech suppression is not relevant to veil. tech is available already, its not in a shapeless concept state waiting in time/space - it is invented, and in space/time.A big BS on that. The anonymous internet, or mail for that matter, is more than sufficient to massively propagate anyone's tech plans, if they existed, to the masses with zero repercussion.
its not that entities cannot discover it themselves either - just that they are suppressed or 'removed' as soon as they do it or attempt to use/spread it.
(04-10-2011, 08:54 PM)unity100 Wrote: incarnate entities are doing that, withholding this information, through negatively oriented power structures.So in other words, it's always the case that we make others invent things that we may need and force them to share, rather than coming up with the things ourselves. The finger pointing is part of the problem, it perpetuates the system. The power is effectively given to the few in this manner. It is learned helplessness, because we refuse to imagine how to solve our own problems. That is a fact, and the real problem.
this, was not the plan of logos. ra had said that logos supplies energies needed for survival and the means for survival for early densities, and all the catalyst in the other densities are created and provided to each other by the entities themselves.
so, this 'catalyst' is not something that was in logos's plans, and hence an 'agreement'.
(04-10-2011, 08:54 PM)unity100 Wrote:Doesn't one have to have something to take in the first place, before it can be taken? What is it, exactly again, that was taken? And who took it? That right, we have no idea whatsoever. That's how mob mentality operates - no visualization of the actual problem, no real questions, and no real solutions. Just wasted accusations. And that mentality is the same one that is ripe for conquest, because it always has its hand out looking to others to solve problems.Quote:The problem is that, on the whole, they really don't know what they want, or what is good for them. They don't know their circumstances and don't have a desire to do so. This is obvious.
you are talking as if the robber has no guilt, and all the guilt lies on the shoulders of the entity who forgot to lock his/her door.