the ultimate act of compassion - Japan

[turtledude23]

oh man get off of it . your arrogant . your insulting to people and u try to come across like some pseudo intellectual. but the one thing i dont see in u is love . get real man get off of this superiority thing. tell us something about yourself personally . we know nothing about it but u set yourself up as some kind of judge. ive never heard u say anything nice to anybody
bottom line is this cowards start stuff on the internet to fill the emptiness in their lives knowing they never have to answer to those they insult.
and you are a coward.

Great, an arrogant coward is it? You do realize that is complete projection? At the point we set ourselves up as beyond reproach for any of our opinions, there really is no hope. To me, that's 'arrogance' and being a 'coward'. You do understand that? I have no problem at all answering for any of mine in these forums. That type of responsibility, continually clarifying, backing up (if required) and standing behind my comments, is hardly cowardice, after all. Further, I would not result to name calling, which obviously leads to no where, in rebuke - we have so many other more effective options with which to express ourselves. At the point I see that type of separating language (no being of light, arrogant, coward, pseudo intellectual), I know there is no progress possible, because one must have personal issues to first digest if that's what's sincerely offered.

I will offer an apology for whatever you may have taken as a personal insult, however. Words can never fully express intention, and some opinions can be disruptive to one's sense of harmony and well-being. I think some people cling so tightly to their ideas, even those supposedly based solely on indivisible, pure love and light, that one finds oneself walking on 'egg shells' in order not to disrupt their fragile and precarious belief system.

I partially agree with both of you but I'd like to say that it's easy to accuse someone of projection but hard to prove it based solely on their posts on a forum. Lets assume your accusation of projection was false, then what's happening here? You're saying "the problem isn't with me, it's with you" yet I don't see any empathy behind that statement, it would be different if you said something like "we all make mistakes, I notice X in you, I would like to help you with that". And if your accusation is true then lets deal with one issue at a time. Norral accused you of never saying anything nice to anybody, and I agree. Why is that? You have alot of knowledge but what is it worth if your heart is closed off? I have the same problem as you and unity but I'm willing to admit to my problem and I'm working on it. Norral: zen is probably accusing you of projection because you didn't make it clear why you believe zen is cowardly and arrogant. And using statements like "were all beings of light" to try to resolve a conflict probably doesn't fly well with unity and zen because they want to see logic and evidence in the topic at hand rather than catch-all statements, even if they're true.

Q'uo once said something along the lines of: there's a reason love is learned before wisdom, without love wisdom is empty. I have been learning this lesson the hard way and I understand zen and unity's points of view in these disagreements, but I also understand the other sides view as well so I hope I can help mediate these conflicts, which most likely will keep occurring until both sides try to see the disagreement from the other sides point of view.