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    03-24-2011, 08:55 AM
    (03-23-2011, 06:37 AM)Focus123 Wrote:
    Quote:I'm going to say 'no'. That is, it won't be eliminated any more than surprise or, say, irony would be eliminated. But the causes or opportunity and form of the fear would change to suit the much broader experience and awareness of one's nature. My guess is that given that 4D context, it would certainly not be the compelling emotion we have here in 3D - if only because with that much consciousness, there is less potential for misunderstanding, attachment, or identification and therefore the ego would have much, much less to lose.


    So it is still a catalyst for both positive and negative paths?
    Apparently, the overriding motivating 'theme' of 4D is 'love' or 'understanding'. Catalyst is anything that may draw attention to the disparity between unconsciousness (a nonaccepting attitude) and consciousness (acceptance).

    Fear is an unconscious reaction to information. It is a reaction not only from the standpoint of misunderstanding, but having resistance to understanding the information. So to experience fear one would first need an unconscious positioning and second, within that unconscious positioning, an actual investment in separation.

    With a certain degree of understanding present, even unknown information is given some context of acceptance which would render it non threatening. So I'd say the catalyst of fear is still there in potential, but reduced - just as it is greatly reduced here in the 7th subdensity and reduced further continuing on with the '2nd tier' valuing systems explained in Spiral Dynamics, for example. At some point there would simply be no opportunity for fear.

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    Fear - by Focus123 - 03-21-2011, 11:21 AM
    RE: Fear - by Brittany - 03-21-2011, 12:06 PM
    RE: Fear - by Focus123 - 03-21-2011, 12:27 PM
    RE: Fear - by zenmaster - 03-21-2011, 12:43 PM
    RE: Fear - by Focus123 - 03-21-2011, 12:58 PM
    RE: Fear - by Namaste - 03-21-2011, 01:39 PM
    RE: Fear - by Focus123 - 03-21-2011, 02:01 PM
    RE: Fear - by kycahi - 03-21-2011, 02:20 PM
    RE: Fear - by Whitefeather - 03-21-2011, 06:16 PM
    RE: Fear - by zenmaster - 03-21-2011, 10:49 PM
    RE: Fear - by Focus123 - 03-21-2011, 07:32 PM
    RE: Fear - by Whitefeather - 03-21-2011, 08:41 PM
    RE: Fear - by BlatzAdict - 03-21-2011, 08:33 PM
    RE: Fear - by spero - 03-22-2011, 06:20 AM
    RE: Fear - by Focus123 - 03-22-2011, 07:10 AM
    RE: Fear - by Namaste - 03-22-2011, 09:40 AM
    RE: Fear - by zenmaster - 03-22-2011, 09:15 PM
    RE: Fear - by Focus123 - 03-22-2011, 09:58 AM
    RE: Fear - by Whitefeather - 03-28-2011, 07:54 PM
    RE: Fear - by Namaste - 03-22-2011, 12:08 PM
    RE: Fear - by Focus123 - 03-23-2011, 06:37 AM
    RE: Fear - by zenmaster - 03-24-2011, 08:55 AM
    RE: Fear - by Namaste - 03-23-2011, 07:44 AM
    RE: Fear - by Namaste - 03-24-2011, 09:30 AM
    RE: Fear - by Focus123 - 03-24-2011, 02:09 PM
    RE: Fear - by zenmaster - 03-24-2011, 09:23 PM

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