03-16-2011, 06:29 PM
(03-16-2011, 05:48 PM)unity100 Wrote:(03-16-2011, 03:53 PM)Derek Wrote: That link you posted would be relevant if he completely sold out and started putting himself off as "the messiah" and making everything he does into a giant business (instead of giving 80% of it away for free). He refers to that point and quote from the Law of One often.
that is the extreme end. had he done it, he would be switched to the other side of the spectrum completely.
it says aggrandizement of self, specific information, reduces polarity there, and compromises the channel. situation fits what is described there.
Quote:That is your opinion. Ra defines it similarly, saying that the way ego is defined by many is a misnomer and it actually is related to the body consciousness (which is exactly how David defines it)
no its not my 'opinion'. i have taken it from Ra's definiton of ego as we know it in our own society. there is nothing in Ra material that links the ego to body consciousness. if so, i would like to see the part that does it.
Quote:Why the need to attack his channeling? What about all the other amazing work that he has brought to the table?
because, we are in a forum that is involved in spiritual teachings ?
Quote:He has awakened SO MANY people.
He is probably the only person in the alternative community providing hope and dispelling fear.
He has discovered so many valuable things that nobody else has.
He has brought so many people to the Law of One.
not to mention that none of these eliminate the ego problem and the accompanying polarity reduction and heightened possibility of compromise, but also it is questionable that what he is 'awakening' people to. he is talking about as much conspiracy material as flat out conspiracy sites like zetatalk.
Quote:What is your comment on that?
It feels good to just sit back and attack someone and project your shadow onto them. Studies have shown that people actually get an opiate rush in their brain when they do this.
Frankly from most of the posts Ive seen that attack David you really don't know what your talking about. You post assumptions that can easily be disproven. Why do you feel the need to nitpick everything he does?
you have disproven none of the post assumptions so far, even if they are easily disproven. and you are rather debasing the people who bring opposing ideas to whatever david wilcock puts out - not disproving their arguments but questioning their motives for raising arguments. and the one doing the defense, is david wilcock - from his mouth. his definition of ego, his good deeds and so on. from his perspective.
we are giving links and quotes to the trusted source material, the very same material which is supposedly channeled by david wilcock. yet, you are dodging to take them into account, by taking them to extreme end and therefore leaving david wilcock in the acceptable threshold.
Quote:He lived with Carla for sometime. Why don't you ask her if he has a big ego? Scott Mandelker (who is good friends with him, and has collaborated with him on many things) doesn't seem to think so.
yes. and despite being reincarnation of edgar cayce, a member of society complex Ra, and someone who is able to channel Ra in a conscious basis, he is not with L/L Research group, who had to quit Ra workings because a team member has left.
why, if david wilcock is such and such a person who is not only edgar cayce reincarnation, but someone easily channeling Ra consciously, not working with l/l group at this time ?
You seem to think that anytime David talks about himself he is aggrandizing himself. Should David just never talk about himself at all? Carla talks about herself in many text documents, video and audio files. The Law of One talks about Carla tremendously. I know all about Carla's personal life and history because Ive heard her talk about it so much. She even sells products!!!!!! I could easily say that she is "aggrandizing herself" if I wanted to.
David is CONSTANTLY telling people not to put him up on a pedestal, and that he is no better than anyone else. Does that sound like aggrandizement?
Davids channeling is literally 5 to 10 percent of his work.
He just lived with them for awhile until his higher self told him to leave. According to Carla they both felt that he can do his work much better in los angeles than kentucky, and they both enjoyed each other and speak positively of each other.
From his website
Quote:David moved to Louisville, Kentucky in February 2003 to join forces with Jim and Carla, the two surviving members of the Law of One contact. He was soon followed by fellow members Vara in March and Gary in late April. David reliably paid 601 dollars monthly rent, shopped for the group's food on Friday night and cooked the group's food for the entire week all day Saturday (with fellow member Vara, who also did all the bookkeeping). David also regularly performed a variety of skilled labor tasks, including a complete remodeling of the basement, creating three new bedrooms and a large laundry room, under the direction and partnership of fellow L/L member Bruce, also known as LoneBear, who moved in as of December. Gary also provided assistance in construction.
This remodeling process proved to be the most grueling physical labor David would ever perform. He literally worked from the time he woke up to the time he went to bed every day, stopping only to take paid clients, cook group food all day Saturday and attend group meetings on Sunday. He began eating regular animal protein again to support his physical body's muscular exertion, and discovered that his particular blood type really benefited from it - thus he allowed limited types of organic meat back in after a seven-year stint of severely disciplined vegan dieting. (Sorry to our dedicated vegetarians out there... some people can do it and some can't.)