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    Thread: What is the reason to want to be part of an social memory complex?


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    05-20-2022, 11:07 AM
    (05-15-2022, 11:12 AM)Diana Wrote:
    (05-15-2022, 10:18 AM)Sacred Fool Wrote: ... consider the vulnerability of being incapable of hiding your thoughts and experiences from others.  What might it take to feel okay with that?  At what level of maturity might one feel copacetic with complete transparency of self?

    Personally, I'm not quite there, but I suspect that as I become more identified with my desire to be love, at some point this might shift.  That is, it may be the 3D imperatives of survival and social standing, etc., which promote opacity?  But some of us find it challenging to get beyond these.

    I will add to this. For some years now, I have been working with this concept. It officially began when I read or heard (too long ago to recall) Ram Dass talking about seeing his cat (I think) playing with a mouse (I think) it caught in the way they do, torturing it or playing with it before it is eaten (or not). The reason I don't recall the details is because the underlying catalyst was what I focused on. That is, the suffering of 3D, and specifically, the suffering of 2D entities either by the design of the predator/prey setup, and even more so, the suffering humans have caused to the 2D kingdom. 

    What I came to realize is the task before me: to be able to allow the pain of seeing suffering to unfold within me, to be able to take it without wanting to die, to accept it for what it is without trying to control it, to welcome it as all things would be welcome and know it for a part of the all which is. This sounds melodramatic but it is not. I traditionally kept (and still keep) certain things at bay knowing that I can only take so much before I spiral down completely into despair. For example, I would have joined PETA or other animal rights activists in helping with oil spills or other animal disaster situations in person if I could have born it, but I know myself enough to know that I could not have (as weak and avoiding as that sounds). So I use my discernment and wisdom about myself to attempt a balance on the path I walk toward acceptance. For me, acceptance is something I have achieved to a large extent, but in this one area, I continue to inch forward yet I am far from there—though there are moments of apprehension that go beyond normal tolerances.

    The point being that to be completely empathetic and transparent and to feel all is a huge affair. To feel pain unmitigated, and for that matter love, is so huge that we in 3D under a veil (I think in general) have a challenging time even imagining it. One clue is in dreams. I think we all have had a dream where you meet with someone and the love you feel is so intense and huge and overwhelming it seems incredulous to waking reality, like it is a gigantic bruise on the soul—so deep and sweet and full. (Hard to articulate.) It is almost as if the enormity of love is only something that could even be begun to be withstood in the buffered situation of dreaming. ... 

    This sharing touched me, Diana. I experience others' suffering intensely; I can feel others' suffering within me. I call this hyper-empathy and it did not come with an owner's manual.  CrackingUp  I struggled with how to navigate life with it. 

    On a personal note, like you, I considered working in animal organizations, even interviewed, but I realized certain experiences can be debilitating for me. Through trial and error and soul-searching, I am learning how to navigate life with hyper-empathy in a balanced way. There were times I put it in a box in a corner because I didn't know how to handle it. I went through dark times filled with confusion and anger.

    To bring it back to SMC, and bringing walls down between self/other: I imagine the transparency within a SMC is expansive. Expanding one's 'boundaries' to include more and more. 

    Without illusory walls separating me from another (human, animal, planet ...), there is vast common ground. I liken it to when I really listen to another with whom I disagree; I can almost always find some common ground when there is authenticity and transparency between us. 

    What would it be like when our experience is shared, common, and expanded by having no illusory separation? What happens when we understand and experience that we are: 
    • the insects and all of their experiences; 
    • the animals and all of their experiences;
    • the ocean and land, the entire planet; 
    • the humans with whom we share love, joy, suffering, fear ... 
    • and much, much more ... 
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    What is the reason to want to be part of an social memory complex? - by tadeus - 02-05-2022, 05:00 AM
    RE: What is the reason to want to be part of an social memory complex? - by Diana - 02-05-2022, 11:34 AM
    RE: What is the reason to want to be part of an social memory complex? - by tadeus - 02-06-2022, 04:38 AM
    RE: What is the reason to want to be part of an social memory complex? - by Aion - 02-05-2022, 12:21 PM
    RE: What is the reason to want to be part of an social memory complex? - by flofrog - 02-05-2022, 03:32 PM
    RE: What is the reason to want to be part of an social memory complex? - by jafar - 02-05-2022, 08:34 PM
    RE: What is the reason to want to be part of an social memory complex? - by IndigoSalvia - 02-06-2022, 12:22 AM
    RE: What is the reason to want to be part of an social memory complex? - by jafar - 02-06-2022, 02:12 AM
    RE: What is the reason to want to be part of an social memory complex? - by jafar - 02-06-2022, 05:13 AM
    RE: What is the reason to want to be part of an social memory complex? - by "the stumbled one" - 05-15-2022, 06:41 AM
    RE: What is the reason to want to be part of an social memory complex? - by Sacred Fool - 05-15-2022, 10:18 AM
    RE: What is the reason to want to be part of an social memory complex? - by Diana - 05-15-2022, 11:12 AM
    RE: What is the reason to want to be part of an social memory complex? - by IndigoSalvia - 05-20-2022, 11:07 AM
    RE: What is the reason to want to be part of an social memory complex? - by Sacred Fool - 05-20-2022, 04:13 PM
    RE: What is the reason to want to be part of an social memory complex? - by Diana - 05-20-2022, 09:34 PM
    RE: What is the reason to want to be part of an social memory complex? - by Sacred Fool - 05-20-2022, 11:45 PM
    RE: What is the reason to want to be part of an social memory complex? - by IndigoSalvia - 05-21-2022, 09:39 AM
    RE: What is the reason to want to be part of an social memory complex? - by zedro - 05-15-2022, 06:55 AM
    RE: What is the reason to want to be part of an social memory complex? - by jafar - 05-18-2022, 06:07 PM
    RE: What is the reason to want to be part of an social memory complex? - by Diana - 05-20-2022, 09:32 AM
    RE: What is the reason to want to be part of an social memory complex? - by jafar - 05-20-2022, 03:31 PM
    RE: What is the reason to want to be part of an social memory complex? - by schubert - 05-20-2022, 01:01 AM
    RE: What is the reason to want to be part of an social memory complex? - by Sacred Fool - 05-21-2022, 11:19 AM

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