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    Thread: 1990.01.07 Q'uo = Ra/latwii. Jesus, more then simply a wanderer


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    02-22-2022, 11:33 AM
    Quote:The phenomenon known to you as Jesus is a principle of the Logos, or Love, that has moved through the densities as any other entity, but was created slightly differently than those of you who swim beneath the sea of illusion. This entity also wished to live a life that was a poem to the Creator, and again, and again, on planet after planet, this entity comes into incarnation with the special character of partial remembrance.   In other words, this entity contains more of the Logos, or Love, than free will, whereas each of you contain the bonding of Love and free will, against which you must challenge yourself to find a unity of being.

    Quote:https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1990/0107
    Your uniqueness lies not in that you are children of love, but in that no two unions of love and free will are the same. To the outer, or mathematical eye, to any measuring instrumentation that could be imagined, this uniqueness could not be discerned, for free will, when bonded with love, takes upon itself the quality of love. The free will portion of it, the active portion of it, is forever, and in a way that mathematics cannot describe, various. Each of you has an absolutely equal, identical portion of love, and each of you has an equal and unique measure of free will. These differences cannot be used either in time/space as you know it or in space/time as you know it, for you are timeless beings.
    Quote:There is only one Christ that is part of the Creator or the Logos that has been given the dispensation not to forget in third density.
    Quote:Yes, my friends, there is only one Christ, but it is a consciousness, a principle, that can incarnate, and incarnate again, and incarnate again. When it incarnates, its only difference is that it does not forget that which all those upon your sphere do forget: the glory, the wonder, the beauty, the peace, the laughter, the love and the light of the one infinite Creator. It is not impossible for you to move along the path that the Christ consciousness has shown you, for you too are the sons and daughters of the Infinite One.

    Quote:17.11 Questioner: Yes. What I meant to say was can you tell me if Jesus of Nazareth came from the Confederation before incarnation here?


    Ra: I am Ra. The one known to you as Jesus of Nazareth did not have a name. This entity was a member of [fourth] density of the highest level of that sub-octave. This entity was desirous of entering this planetary sphere in order to share the love vibration in as pure a manner as possible. Thus, this entity received permission to perform this mission. This entity was then a Wanderer of no name, of Confederation origins, of [fourth] density, representing the [fourth-density] understanding of the vibration of understanding or love.

    Quote:John 14:8-12

    Philip said to him, “Lord, show us the Father, and we shall be satisfied.” Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you do not know me, Philip? He who has seen me has seen the Father; how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority; but the Father who dwells in me does his works. Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father in me; or else believe me for the sake of the works themselves.


    “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I go to the Father.


    A small glimmer of the mystery of Jesus the Christ has, I feel, been revealed here thanks to the transcript that Jeremy had referenced, especially alongside what the Confederation has said elsewhere, and what Jesus himself has instructed.

    The Creator makes each of us to be utterly and completely unique, thanks to the nature of our composition: two equal measures each of love and free will.  The love is always identical to all other love; the free will is always unique and various: "each of us is free in a different way."  Jesus the Christ is no less unique, but, the composition is not equal: a greater measure of love than free will.  So, Jesus, as the individualized soul stream, is still free in some sense--and I see that he uses that free will to choose, again and again, to incarnate, teach, and then sacrifice himself in a perfect representation of love ("highest level of the sub-octave [of the fourth density]").
    Jesus says that we will do the works he does, and greater works, even, for he goes "to the father."  Ra has said that Jesus as the individualized entity has in fact gone on to the fifth density:

    Quote:17.21 Questioner: Then [in] which density does the entity known as Jesus now reside?

    Ra: I am Ra. This information is harmless though unimportant. This entity studies now the lessons of the wisdom vibration, the fifth density, also called the light vibration.
    However, the very next exchange is about the continuing travels of Jesus, especially, whether he will return to earth:
    Quote:17.22 Questioner: In our culture there is a great saying that he will return. Can you tell me if this is planned?
    Ra: I am Ra. I will attempt to sort out this question. It is difficult. This entity became aware that it was not an entity of itself but operated as a messenger of the One Creator whom this entity saw as love. This entity was aware that this cycle was in its last portion and spoke to the effect that those of its consciousness would return at the harvest.

    The particular mind/body/spirit complex you call Jesus is, as what you would call an entity, not to return except as a member of the Confederation occasionally speaking through a channel. However, there are others of the identical congruency of consciousness that will welcome those to the fourth density. This is the meaning of the returning.
    Given what Q'uo said about Jesus incarnating "on planet after planet," I see now that Jesus, as the entity, will continue passage through fifth density, then sixth, seventh, and onward, as we all will do.  Jesus will not return to earth--but, at any moment within the 'standard' passage of experience, he will be offered the opportunity (and will accept, as his nature) to incarnate (again, and again) whenever there is a planet like ours who struggles with the transition from third density to fourth density.  His life plan may not conform to how it was on earth, but I believe the thrust will be the same: he incarnates, learns again that he is the Creator and casts off the veil, and then performs great miracles, gathers disciples, and teaches the ways of love until he is inevitably killed; and this he accepts as a sacrifice, as martyrdom, and in fact as the culmination of his lesson on love for the planet he visits.
    We can, of course, do the same--we have other Wanderers here on earth now ("will also do the works that I do")--but our travels, our services, will be more various ("greater").  

    It is interesting to me that C. S. Lewis, author and Christian apologist, wrote a trilogy where the protagonist, Dr. Elwin Ransom, travels the cosmos and finds that other planets have similar legends to the Garden of Eden, the incarnation of Jesus Christ, and other such elements.  I wonder if Lewis was a Wanderer, too, and one who had been with Jesus in the later densities, so that the memory of who he was resurfaced to inform both his faith and his authored works...
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    1990.01.07 Q'uo = Ra/latwii. Jesus, more then simply a wanderer - by Jeremy - 10-22-2012, 12:32 PM
    RE: Q'uo = Ra/latwii. Jesus, more then simply a wanderer - by Tenet Nosce - 10-22-2012, 12:37 PM
    RE: Q'uo = Ra/latwii. Jesus, more then simply a wanderer - by Patrick - 10-22-2012, 12:50 PM
    RE: Q'uo = Ra/latwii. Jesus, more then simply a wanderer - by XionComrade - 11-26-2012, 06:26 PM
    RE: 1990.01.07 Q'uo = Ra/latwii. Jesus, more then simply a wanderer - by hogey11 - 12-01-2012, 01:10 PM
    RE: 1990.01.07 Q'uo = Ra/latwii. Jesus, more then simply a wanderer - by Ashim - 12-01-2012, 01:25 PM
    RE: 1990.01.07 Q'uo = Ra/latwii. Jesus, more then simply a wanderer - by Aaron - 12-01-2012, 07:15 PM
    RE: 1990.01.07 Q'uo = Ra/latwii. Jesus, more then simply a wanderer - by Oceania - 12-01-2012, 02:45 PM
    RE: 1990.01.07 Q'uo = Ra/latwii. Jesus, more then simply a wanderer - by Ashim - 12-01-2012, 02:51 PM
    RE: 1990.01.07 Q'uo = Ra/latwii. Jesus, more then simply a wanderer - by Oceania - 12-01-2012, 08:08 PM
    RE: 1990.01.07 Q'uo = Ra/latwii. Jesus, more then simply a wanderer - by Cyan - 12-01-2012, 08:45 PM
    RE: 1990.01.07 Q'uo = Ra/latwii. Jesus, more then simply a wanderer - by AnthroHeart - 12-01-2012, 11:48 PM
    RE: 1990.01.07 Q'uo = Ra/latwii. Jesus, more then simply a wanderer - by Vestige - 02-22-2022, 11:33 AM
    RE: 1990.01.07 Q'uo = Ra/latwii. Jesus, more then simply a wanderer - by Quincunx - 02-22-2022, 07:38 PM
    RE: 1990.01.07 Q'uo = Ra/latwii. Jesus, more then simply a wanderer - by flofrog - 02-22-2022, 09:20 PM
    RE: 1990.01.07 Q'uo = Ra/latwii. Jesus, more then simply a wanderer - by aWanderer91 - 02-22-2022, 09:41 PM
    RE: 1990.01.07 Q'uo = Ra/latwii. Jesus, more then simply a wanderer - by jafar - 03-12-2022, 10:27 PM

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