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    Thread: Worship?


    Diana (Offline)

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    11-27-2021, 12:18 PM
    (11-27-2021, 10:39 AM)IndigoSalvia Wrote: I am wondering if/how others "worship" the 1/I Creator, Creation? Is worshipping the Source necessary? 

    I personally get hung up on such terms. I also get hung up when I read the term "Father" in reference to the 1/I Creator, and christian references to the Creator, or Source. 

    It's my own baggage. I was raised in a very strict religion with a distortion of "God" that scared and angered me. Lots of judgment, shame and guilt from this God and from other humans. If I didn't do as told, I would go to eternal hell. 

    I had serious questions accepting this religion as I learned more, and much to my mother's heart-ache, I stepped away when I was young (pre-adolescence). She has now come to ask similar questions and see 'distortions.' 

    So, when I read - in Quo, Ra, etc. - references to my early childhood religion (based on judgment and punishment), I stumble on the words. 

    Have any others encountered this? How have you reconciled?

    I don't worship anything. I do, however, respect all life; I can be grateful; I can feel admiration or be impressed, but this does not mean to me that I am less-than the entity I admire. I think this is part of the explanation of learn/teach: that we all have part of a picture that expresses Infinite Intelligence or infinite possibilities. Worship, to me, implies separation: there is you and the entity worshipped. If ultimately we are all one according to the LOO then worship makes no sense, as there is no separation at that level of comprehension (there is no worshipper + worshipped). In addition, worship implies that one follows the entity one is worshipping, and I personally see that as limiting.

    Regarding channelings such as Q'uo. I ignore any such 3D societal words and references such as "Father" and "God" and "praise"—all religious words—and just take from those channelings anything which I may connect with. Unfortunately religion has even hijacked the word "faith" for itself, so for me I have to look past that when studying the archetypes.

    I was not raised religious. Though on my own out of curiosity I did visit churches when I was in elementary school. It was more a philosophical/intellectual curiosity. 

    I find religions to be nonsensical in general, and dangerous (Spanish inquisition, crusades, jihad, etc.). Religions do not promote thinking for yourself. The term, "Father," to me in reference to a source or OIC is not a responsible frame of mind, but I understand the compulsion of some people needing this sort of reassurance. I don't even like the word "God" which is the centerstone of religious control (God wants you do this; God doesn't want you to do that). And the bible, particularly but not limited to the old testament, is filled with unimaginable horrors supposedly decreed by "God" (Abraham asked to sacrifice his son; genital mutilation; rape; killing; slavery and so on). I find cognitive dissonance to be very far-reaching when I hear people say that the Christian God is a God of love, for example.

    So you are not alone in your assessments. Also remember that any Q'uo channelings are conscious channelings. This leaves the information channeled affected by the channeler, as the channeler constitutes a filter to varying degrees. But this does not mean you can't derive good and helpful information and perspectives from conscious channeling. It really doesn't matter how you come across insights in the end, only that you are open to receiving them, in my opinion. You might get a message by seeing a homeless person or an animal in the wild. The point, for me, is to stay open to possibilities and not get caught up in the maelstrom (3D constructs such as religions)
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    Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 11-27-2021, 10:39 AM
    RE: Worship? - by Diana - 11-27-2021, 12:18 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Serveou - 11-27-2021, 03:22 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 11-27-2021, 04:10 PM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 11-28-2021, 11:31 AM
    RE: Worship? - by Diana - 11-28-2021, 12:04 PM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 11-28-2021, 03:38 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 11-29-2021, 12:55 AM
    RE: Worship? - by Diana - 11-29-2021, 03:10 PM
    RE: Worship? - by MonadicSpectrum - 11-30-2021, 08:32 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Diana - 12-05-2021, 11:52 AM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 12-05-2021, 01:18 PM
    RE: Worship? - by flofrog - 11-28-2021, 12:23 AM
    RE: Worship? - by MonadicSpectrum - 11-28-2021, 01:17 AM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 11-28-2021, 12:05 PM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 11-28-2021, 01:58 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Cannon - 11-28-2021, 06:47 PM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 11-28-2021, 11:31 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Dtris - 11-29-2021, 10:57 AM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 11-29-2021, 12:42 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 11-29-2021, 05:04 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Diana - 11-29-2021, 06:29 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 11-29-2021, 10:00 PM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 11-29-2021, 11:58 PM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 11-30-2021, 01:35 AM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 11-30-2021, 02:43 AM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 11-30-2021, 03:51 AM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 11-30-2021, 12:51 PM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 11-30-2021, 10:12 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Steppingfeet - 11-30-2021, 12:13 AM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 11-30-2021, 12:58 PM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 12-03-2021, 12:56 PM
    RE: Worship? - by MonadicSpectrum - 12-03-2021, 07:30 PM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 12-03-2021, 09:50 PM
    RE: Worship? - by MonadicSpectrum - 12-05-2021, 09:42 PM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 12-05-2021, 09:56 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Diana - 12-06-2021, 10:38 AM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 12-06-2021, 05:43 PM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 12-06-2021, 07:46 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Diana - 12-07-2021, 10:48 AM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 12-07-2021, 01:46 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Diana - 12-07-2021, 03:49 PM
    RE: Worship? - by MonadicSpectrum - 12-07-2021, 10:54 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Diana - 12-08-2021, 11:45 AM
    RE: Worship? - by MonadicSpectrum - 12-08-2021, 02:22 PM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 12-08-2021, 03:22 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 12-07-2021, 11:47 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 12-08-2021, 11:52 AM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 12-07-2021, 11:28 AM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 12-08-2021, 02:00 AM
    RE: Worship? - by Diana - 12-08-2021, 11:16 AM
    RE: Worship? - by flofrog - 12-08-2021, 06:30 PM
    RE: Worship? - by MonadicSpectrum - 12-08-2021, 08:31 PM
    RE: Worship? - by flofrog - 12-09-2021, 01:32 AM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 12-09-2021, 02:13 AM
    RE: Worship? - by Diana - 12-09-2021, 11:12 AM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 12-09-2021, 02:52 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Diana - 12-09-2021, 03:24 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 12-09-2021, 04:04 PM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 12-09-2021, 03:57 PM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 12-09-2021, 01:52 AM
    RE: Worship? - by flofrog - 12-09-2021, 02:09 AM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 12-08-2021, 08:10 PM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 12-09-2021, 11:15 PM
    RE: Worship? - by MonadicSpectrum - 12-10-2021, 12:56 AM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 12-10-2021, 01:24 AM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 12-10-2021, 03:39 AM
    RE: Worship? - by MonadicSpectrum - 12-10-2021, 04:03 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Diana - 12-10-2021, 12:24 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 12-10-2021, 03:55 PM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 12-10-2021, 08:50 PM
    RE: Worship? - by MonadicSpectrum - 12-10-2021, 09:53 PM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 12-13-2021, 10:54 PM
    RE: Worship? - by MonadicSpectrum - 12-14-2021, 12:13 AM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 12-14-2021, 02:47 AM
    RE: Worship? - by tadeus - 12-15-2021, 09:41 AM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 12-15-2021, 12:58 PM
    RE: Worship? - by flofrog - 12-15-2021, 05:31 PM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 12-18-2021, 08:20 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Patrick - 12-18-2021, 10:15 PM
    RE: Worship? - by tadeus - 12-19-2021, 05:08 AM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 12-21-2021, 08:00 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Patrick - 12-21-2021, 09:43 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 12-22-2021, 01:36 PM

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