Removing the veil of separation

[Anders]

Spiritual teachers often say that there is a difference between suffering and pain. And I can see that adding mental and emotional agony to physical pain increases the suffering, but I don't see how removing the mental suffering will remove the physical pain.

However, I now heard Vernon Howard saying that when we win or we lose it's the same kind of emotional thrill! If he is correct then psychological suffering is indeed dependent on our mental interpretation of situations and events.