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    07-21-2021, 10:49 AM (This post was last modified: 07-21-2021, 10:53 AM by Ming the Merciful.)
    (07-21-2021, 08:40 AM)Ohr Ein Sof Wrote:
    (07-20-2021, 05:57 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote:
    (07-20-2021, 05:32 PM)Dtris Wrote:
    (07-20-2021, 11:40 AM)Ming the Merciful Wrote:
    (07-19-2021, 06:39 PM)Dtris Wrote: I agree that there is too much intellectualism. While we attempt to use our intellect to discern the truth, it cannot do so by itself. But for many people this is how the seeking starts. They will use their intellect to examine these ideas, and eventually after the intellect is found wanting, will decide to go inward in meditation and experience the creator.

    There is nothing wrong with seeking for Truth. There must also be times when we need to listen. The Law of One has no need to explain itself intellectually. Intellectualism is Mind in the Grossest State. To comprehend the Law of One, we have to raise our Consciousness. Do you expect the Law of One to lower itself to our level of understanding?

    I cannot agree that intellect is mind in its Grossest state. While this may be your perspective coming from Zen, it is not mine coming from Qigong. The Mind has just as important a role as any other faculty of the self. Intellect is part of what defines third density, when this faculty is used in service to the creator, it can exalt the creation. When it attempts to supercede the creator and the creation, it becomes a deity upon a false dais.

    When I say that Intellectual Mind is the "Grossest State", I am comparing that with the Higher States of Consciousness. When we live our daily lives, we are living in Gross Mind. The lowest level of Self-Awareness and Self-Consciousness. As we enter Intuitive and Unconscious Mind, our states of Awareness and acknowledge The Zen, The Tao, (The Law of One). Comprehension and Understanding the Law of One does not happen in Gross Mind.

    To reach Fourth Density, we must reside in a Higher State of Consciousness. Not only as individuals but Humanity as a whole. That is when we will get the Fourth Density Shift.

    Zen, Qigong, it is all the same. When we recognize that all Philosophies are all from the same source, (The Law of One), interpretation is unimportant.

    You and Dtris are both correct IMHO. I feel most human beings working in consciousness will jump back and forth from the concepts you guys present and this is perfectly acceptable in 3rd density awareness. Self awareness is first and the intellect plays a decent role in self discovery but then life begins beyond that same intellect and must be surrendered or must yield to the intuitive; or what some may say as 'the real'.

    The starting point for any Spiritual Development begins at the lowest level of Consciousness, (Gross Mind). It is only by learning developing our understanding, do we learn the techniques of raising our Consciousness. At the current time it is the evolution from Third to Fourth Density, (for those who comprehend the concept). Looking at it from the overall perspective of the "Great Nothingness", it is nothing more than a fractional millisecond and a moment of time. When we begin to accept that the "Law of One" is an all-encompassing force, that permeates everything. Our concepts of Reality changes. It is switching from a "Gaia Mind" to the "Universal Mind". The Great Emptiness or the Nothingness cannot be pigeonholed into Human Concepts, and any Philosophical Theories become meaningless, because they cannot comprehend the Overall Whole. We only begin to comprehend when we accept that we are incapable of understanding IT. Once we acknowledge that fact, then the Understanding begins. Its not that we are trying to find the answer. The answer is there, and there is no need to see it, or understand it. It is complete, within itself.
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    The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ming the Merciful - 07-19-2021, 06:16 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Dtris - 07-19-2021, 06:39 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ming the Merciful - 07-20-2021, 11:40 AM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Dtris - 07-20-2021, 05:32 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ming the Merciful - 07-20-2021, 05:57 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ohr Ein Sof - 07-21-2021, 08:40 AM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ming the Merciful - 07-21-2021, 10:49 AM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by pat19989 - 07-19-2021, 07:17 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ming the Merciful - 07-20-2021, 11:45 AM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by jafar - 07-20-2021, 12:58 AM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by RitaJC - 07-20-2021, 11:08 AM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ming the Merciful - 07-20-2021, 11:34 AM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by greywolf - 07-21-2021, 06:23 AM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by unity100 - 08-07-2021, 09:11 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ming the Merciful - 08-08-2021, 03:57 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by unity100 - 08-09-2021, 08:34 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Sacred Fool - 08-10-2021, 02:35 AM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ming the Merciful - 08-10-2021, 10:45 AM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Patrick - 08-10-2021, 11:40 AM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Sacred Fool - 08-10-2021, 12:22 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Dtris - 08-10-2021, 12:56 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Sacred Fool - 08-10-2021, 01:23 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Patrick - 08-10-2021, 01:11 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Patrick - 08-10-2021, 02:08 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ming the Merciful - 08-10-2021, 03:27 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Sacred Fool - 08-10-2021, 04:03 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ming the Merciful - 08-10-2021, 04:59 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Dtris - 08-10-2021, 04:43 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ming the Merciful - 08-10-2021, 05:06 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Sacred Fool - 08-10-2021, 05:29 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ming the Merciful - 08-10-2021, 06:37 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Sacred Fool - 08-10-2021, 07:29 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ming the Merciful - 08-11-2021, 11:02 AM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Sacred Fool - 08-11-2021, 01:22 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ohr Ein Sof - 08-11-2021, 03:37 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Sacred Fool - 08-11-2021, 05:08 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ming the Merciful - 08-11-2021, 06:05 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Sacred Fool - 08-12-2021, 02:28 AM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ming the Merciful - 08-12-2021, 06:15 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ohr Ein Sof - 08-11-2021, 06:53 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Patrick - 08-10-2021, 05:27 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ming the Merciful - 08-10-2021, 05:40 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Patrick - 08-11-2021, 06:08 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ming the Merciful - 08-11-2021, 06:19 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ohr Ein Sof - 08-11-2021, 07:13 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ohr Ein Sof - 08-11-2021, 07:02 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by jafar - 08-11-2021, 10:45 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by unity100 - 08-22-2021, 06:55 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ming the Merciful - 08-22-2021, 07:17 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by unity100 - 08-22-2021, 07:50 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ming the Merciful - 08-23-2021, 12:52 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by unity100 - 08-24-2021, 11:03 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ming the Merciful - 08-25-2021, 05:35 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ohr Ein Sof - 08-25-2021, 06:27 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ming the Merciful - 08-26-2021, 05:40 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Aion - 08-27-2021, 01:24 AM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ming the Merciful - 08-27-2021, 04:23 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Patrick - 08-27-2021, 05:57 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ming the Merciful - 08-28-2021, 04:05 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Patrick - 08-28-2021, 04:45 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by Ming the Merciful - 08-28-2021, 06:16 PM
    RE: The Great Emptiness (or), the "Nothingness" - by unity100 - 08-29-2021, 09:54 PM

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