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    06-25-2021, 09:56 AM (This post was last modified: 06-25-2021, 10:05 AM by tadeus.)
    (06-25-2021, 08:57 AM)pat19989 Wrote: However, once you have started down this path, i feel that there is no further use in analyzing their systems. It will only bring about anxiety, fear, and hatred (for me personally I guess, but I can't imagine someone being joyous about the dark nature of the elites around the world).

    There is almost no use in trying to convince others of your perspective, as I have found this is near impossible. Once someone is ready to take the plunge in which their worldview is shattered, they will do it. The universe will take them their, and 9 times out of 10 you are not the catalyst to this realization for other people.

    I initially got this thought that we need to organize against them, but I don't see that being a fruitful path either. I am beginning to believe that working on our spirit and raising the vibration of the world by the way we treat people, animals, and ourselves is the best course of action once you have come to the realization that a group of twisted humanists probably want all of us plebes to die.

    I believe keeping the elites' plans out of my conscious almost completely is the healthiest way to deal with their efforts.

    Thanks - that's a really good statement.
    This details leads to the questions and thoughts at the beginning of this thread.

    It's true from the point of view that the sum of our consciousness is manifesting our world.
    But how can you manifest something else, when you are not aware that's something wrong and what's wrong?
    So this world is manifested in the way such an "Elite" want to have it manifested.

    This leads to the diagnose of a split of the awakening and the diagnose of Rudolf Steiner helps to couch this in terms.
    It seems that there is a split of choice to be done too, even the spiritual maybe the primary.

    And yes - this can be seen as an violating of free will, but what if one of my tasks is to be 1 of 10?
    So i am really sorry for that, when i am violating someones free will!  Heart
    I only want to point out that there is a awakening in different tasks / levels.

    Apropos - recently i found in the Saturday Meditation October 7, 2017:

    Quote:Now, those of you who have, as have members of this group, found your way to a rather complex body of information which has the potential to recast much of what you have learned in a context much broader than you had learned in your youth, you have the opportunity to share this broader perspective with those in your social complex that have not had such an opportunity, and that might be chafing against the limits of a more restricted perspective. It is tempting for those who have found a path which they have found to be useful in guiding them along the course of their evolutionary development to want to sally forth and to offer this good news to all who would listen. It is tempting, we say, and sometimes too much so, because in your eagerness to share, you risk violating the one precondition of all genuine or open-hearted sharing, which is the free will of others.

    Now, to some extent, since you are incarnate, you have less need to be concerned about violating the free will of others within your range of experience than would we, simply because we are outside of the energy configuration that constitutes your social energy complex, and it would be a greater intrusion for us to offer specific recommendations about how you might proceed in your development than it would be for you to offer your fellow travelers your point of view in aiding them to sort through what you have quite well understood to be a confusing mass of possibilities.

    So my friends - please sort everything!  Wink
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    Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 06-21-2021, 09:22 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by Patrick - 06-21-2021, 10:00 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 06-21-2021, 10:06 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by Ohr Ein Sof - 08-19-2021, 07:42 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 08-19-2021, 01:50 PM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by Ohr Ein Sof - 08-19-2021, 05:03 PM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 08-20-2021, 07:38 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by jafar - 08-20-2021, 09:18 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 08-21-2021, 05:31 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by Ohr Ein Sof - 08-21-2021, 07:22 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 08-22-2021, 06:06 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by Ohr Ein Sof - 08-22-2021, 05:56 PM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 08-22-2021, 09:15 PM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 06-22-2021, 03:34 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by Patrick - 06-22-2021, 06:59 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 06-23-2021, 06:27 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by Patrick - 06-23-2021, 09:24 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 06-23-2021, 01:06 PM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by Patrick - 06-21-2021, 10:59 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by flofrog - 06-21-2021, 12:23 PM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by Patrick - 06-23-2021, 02:42 PM
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    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 06-24-2021, 03:08 AM
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    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 06-24-2021, 08:42 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by Diana - 06-24-2021, 10:48 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 06-24-2021, 11:11 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by Patrick - 06-24-2021, 01:51 PM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 06-25-2021, 04:45 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by pat19989 - 06-25-2021, 08:57 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 06-25-2021, 09:56 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by Diana - 06-25-2021, 11:18 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 06-26-2021, 03:25 AM
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    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 06-27-2021, 04:50 AM
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    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by Ming the Merciful - 07-13-2021, 05:48 PM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 07-14-2021, 03:40 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by Ming the Merciful - 07-14-2021, 01:24 PM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 07-15-2021, 07:19 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 07-18-2021, 04:29 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by EvolvingPhoenix - 07-19-2021, 09:36 PM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 07-22-2021, 09:42 PM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 08-18-2021, 06:17 PM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by flofrog - 08-18-2021, 08:57 PM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 08-19-2021, 03:14 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 08-19-2021, 04:57 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by unity100 - 08-22-2021, 06:42 PM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 08-22-2021, 09:28 PM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 08-29-2021, 09:00 AM
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    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 08-30-2021, 04:07 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by Patrick - 08-30-2021, 07:01 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by Ming the Merciful - 08-30-2021, 05:21 PM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 08-30-2021, 07:27 PM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by flofrog - 08-30-2021, 01:12 PM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by Patrick - 08-30-2021, 05:24 PM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by Ming the Merciful - 08-30-2021, 05:36 PM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by Patrick - 08-30-2021, 07:21 PM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 09-20-2021, 08:36 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by flofrog - 09-20-2021, 09:06 PM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 09-21-2021, 05:51 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 09-22-2021, 07:07 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by Diana - 09-22-2021, 11:37 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by tadeus - 09-24-2021, 05:10 AM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by flofrog - 09-30-2021, 04:02 PM
    RE: Thinking, feeling and willing in a spiritual and daily matter - by pat19989 - 10-01-2021, 12:10 AM

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