06-21-2021, 05:45 AM
[quote My current loose understanding is to ask the question: What can be outside everything? The answer is: Nothing. And this forms a duality between everything and nothing. And that duality is a difference that is reality.
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What can be outside everything? The answer, my personal answer is: the Divine. This is my personal answer, I don't want to contradict anyone. We cannot grasp Its incommensurability, because we are so immersed in duality that we cannot even think of non-duality, our sense operate as on-off mechanisms, and we filter everything we experience through our dualistic mind. Yet we may experience It in ways that cannot be described because words are part of the dualistic modality we're in.
I'm deeply disturbed when I read that everything is thought. To me, this is just a word or a label like many others, because humans cannot think of something more rarefied than thought, yet there are thoughts, coming from the dualistic mind, and "thoughts" (I call them in different ways, here let's say "intuitions") that everyone puts down in words according to their personal and social backgrounds which cannot convey the complexity of such an experience. As parts of the Creation, we all can experience Its beyond-duality, beyond-words presence but, as long as we are deeply into duality, we can't share our feeling. Unless, of course, there is someone somewhere so open as to feel our feeling as if it were theirs. Such experiences do not pass through ordinary senses, ça va sans dire, they are "snatched" via something we are not trained to use, something quite normal and ordinary that has got nothing to do with superpowers and mysterious effects or psychedelism of some sort. Experiencing God should be the norm for everything...
I hope I am not irrelevant to the topic and, if I am, please let me know.
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What can be outside everything? The answer, my personal answer is: the Divine. This is my personal answer, I don't want to contradict anyone. We cannot grasp Its incommensurability, because we are so immersed in duality that we cannot even think of non-duality, our sense operate as on-off mechanisms, and we filter everything we experience through our dualistic mind. Yet we may experience It in ways that cannot be described because words are part of the dualistic modality we're in.
I'm deeply disturbed when I read that everything is thought. To me, this is just a word or a label like many others, because humans cannot think of something more rarefied than thought, yet there are thoughts, coming from the dualistic mind, and "thoughts" (I call them in different ways, here let's say "intuitions") that everyone puts down in words according to their personal and social backgrounds which cannot convey the complexity of such an experience. As parts of the Creation, we all can experience Its beyond-duality, beyond-words presence but, as long as we are deeply into duality, we can't share our feeling. Unless, of course, there is someone somewhere so open as to feel our feeling as if it were theirs. Such experiences do not pass through ordinary senses, ça va sans dire, they are "snatched" via something we are not trained to use, something quite normal and ordinary that has got nothing to do with superpowers and mysterious effects or psychedelism of some sort. Experiencing God should be the norm for everything...
I hope I am not irrelevant to the topic and, if I am, please let me know.
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