David Wilcock

[Ali Quadir]

Dear Monica, our issues are slowly resolving themselves. As you say it is a matter of perspective

You create a universe by perceiving it so everything in that universe is specific to you.

I agree with this.

Did you understand the information above it? That is very relevant in my point of view. I will repeat it for convienience. in my understanding you cannot see my point if you miss this bit.

You cannot see what I see because you see what you see. You cannot know what I know because you know what you know. Anything you see or hear or experience in any way at all is specific to you. You create a universe by perceiving it so everything in that universe is specific to you. (Old man sitting on top of a pole. Hitch hikers guide to the galaxy by Douglas Adams)

Movement across the boundaries is discrete. There is no discreet phase shift between you and me.

I understand your viewpoint. I think the difference is one of perception. I was speaking of the movement itself, not the checkpoints along the way. But I think we've both repeated our views, so we might just have to leave it at that. :-/

Maybe we should leave it. I understand your position.

There is no discreet motion, motion is what we call the succession of discrete checkpoints. I think the difference is still more than perception here. But thank you so much for not hitting me with a large hammer by now

The IAM which creates this universe by perception exists outside of this universe.

I see the IAM as permeating all that there is. There is no place where the Creator doesn't dwell.

I did not say that. You are of course absolutely correct. I say the IAM exists outside of this universe. The universe exists within the IAM! The IAM is not contained within the universe! It does not fit inside the universe! An infinite zoo of different universes however fit inside of IAM !

Get it ? For those with occult backgrounds: The Khabs is in the Khu, not the Khu is in the Khabs. (Crowley's book of the law.)

All discrete universes that are born from IAM's act of perception/creation are completely separated.

Separated by what?

By their own exclusion of the other. If you were to see what I see. How could you see what you see? You cannot ever close the distance to me without losing yourself and becoming me. The very fact of you being you makes it impossible for you to be me. This separates the universes within IAM.

There is still a connection through IAM. In fact, the only way for you to truly know me. Is to know yourself.

If the power of this separation would vanish. Then all universes would instantly anihilate and return to the unmanifest. They cannot exist if they are not in some way defined.

This is the multiverse M String theory refers to. However the consequences are not fully understood. There are an infinite number of them each of them is fully separate and connected only through the IAM.

Hmmm...in trying to understand you here...so if the IAM is separate from the UniVerses, as you stated previously, then how does the IAM connect the UniVerses? And, how is it that some entities are able to travel back and forth between UniVerses/dimensions? Do we not all travel to the Dream dimension every night?

Thank you for bearing with me. I think if you grok this you've understood the essence of my lifes study. You don't have to agree with it. Just getting it would be superb! The dream is simply another place in your universe. It is not separated from the universe. IAM is always. There is never a NOT IAM moment. Do you remember one instance of unconsciousness? Or was it always the universe telling you that it exists? No entities can travel between these universes of self. They are merely travelling between different regions in one universe. For example between the astral and physical. If an entity were to travel he would cease to be himself and begin to be another. His old self still firmly in the place he just left! Self is a function of the universe you're in. I cannot see what you see because I see what I see! This is why I considered that bit so vitally important. You cannot become another. You can only ever be you. You in billion forms that is true but you nonetheless. You could become "You that became me" but never "me" because I never was you! ... See the difference?

However, in IAM all is one. I am connects by being the "thing" in which all others exist. It is not an intermediate connection like how roads connect cities. It is how space connects planets.. By allowing them to be a part of it.

Agreed! My objective here is not to reach a consensus as to what is deemed 'correct' but to engage in stimulating thought. I think all of us can grow/stretch our thinking by delving deeply into the perspectives of others.

It would be awesome if you could understand the point I make fully. And then reject it! I would be very happy. As you say consensus should not be our goal. Just momentarily seeing from another point.

Higher self or IAM I do not know how this works if we step it up to 4d. I speak about absolutes.

Do you think 3D has absolute, irrefutable laws governing it? If so, how do you explain when those boundaries of reality are (seemingly inexplicably) crossed, or laws broken? Is there really any such thing as an absolute?

Only in the sense that they must seem absolute to an entity living in 3d such as myself. I don't claim I know the absolute truth. Only that what I see seems absolute. When Ra takes a less absolute description of the situation considering he is 6d this explains why I may mistake some things as absolute while there may be much more nuance there.

I do not believe we have an argument here.

I agree! Just a difference in interpretations & perspectives. Thank you for sharing yours!

And thank you!