06-09-2021, 08:06 PM
I would say you have a distorted view of what service is and what it means to serve. You are also confusing the dynamics of love and control.
Underlines added by myself. Definition of Serve If you read the multitude of definitions given you will see there are neutral, positive, and negative connotations according to the view common on this forum.
When my ex broke her back, a lifted her to use the bathroom, carried her to bed, often adjusted her when she awoke screaming in pain when she inadvertently moved in the wrong way while sleeping, built her a wheelchair ramp, and many other things. When my grandfather was dying a few years ago, I helped him to the bathroom, helped him walk when he was no longer strong enough, I picked him up when he fell, I drove him to the store, I made calls and appointments for him. When my mother died recently, I was with her every day I could in the hospital, brought her clothes and food, checked her vitals when needed, and adjusted her oxygen, and made sure wherever she went the doctors understood her history and what was going on. Which one of those was not a service?
When a child is born and the parents, feed, and clothe, and shelter, and teach the child, what of those is not a service?
When you admire someone and voluntarily do their will, that is also a service.
What is amiss in your examples are they are shallow. While being a sympathetic ear is important, it is a low investment type of service. It reminds me of the saying, A friend is who you call when you are in jail, a best friend is in the cell with you.
The 4th density is the density of love. It is where the STO and STS graduate to. Love cannot be denied. If a person denies love altogether they will never graduate either way. The creator loves all of the creation, whether you accept or deny the love of the creator toward you is irrelevant. The density of love is about exploring the manifestations of love in relation to the self and other self. This can be done by directing love outward, or inward. If the negative does not love at all, they would not graduate.
Love is not what we think it is. We have a very skewed concept of love in our world. It is most closely tied to romantic love, then secondly to familial love. However none of these represent the force of love in an accurate way and these are facets of the entire concept. I am still exploring the concept myself and do not want to say anything wrong, but I know that what most people mean when they say love only encompasses a small fraction of the concept as explored in the major densities.
Believe it or not, there are known counterfeits that have sold for a fortune, simply because the artistic skill involved in making an accurate counterfeit can be breathtaking itself.
You can serve by force, or you can serve by choice. That is the fundamental difference in STO and STS. STS forces others to serve them, meanwhile the one being forced forces those below and so on, while plotting and waiting for an opportunity to usurp the higher position. STO serves out of a genuine desire to provide for others in a manner that is congruent with their own talents and inclinations.
Your ideas on integration and choices and how to progress are your own and they seem well thought out and coherent.
Now to return to the top so to speak. Love is a force of nature. It is one of the primal distortions of the creator. Love/Light, Light/Love; these are more real in our physical world than matter itself. How we interact with the experience we gain is where control comes in. Control is not the inverse of love, that is light. Acceptance is the inverse of control. Control/Accept, Accept/Control; these concepts are intertwined just as learn/teach and teach/learn are intertwined. The most controlling parents can also be the most loving, but fear causes them to control their child's life. The parents who afford their children the most freedom can also be unloving.
As stated by Ra, the fundamental difference between STO and STS is that the former accepts when confronted with catalyst, while STS controls. STO accepts the self, STS controls the self. STO accepts other selves, STS controls other selves. STO loves the self and other selves, STS only loves the self. Service being only true service when it is freely given, STS can never freely give service to an other self, as all are insignificant compared to self. The only true service can be to the self in that case. Whereas STO can freely give service in any manner which is congruent with their own desire to serve others.
(06-09-2021, 05:42 PM)ANGEL Wrote: However, lately I have begun to question key points that are deeply concerning to me. The first and foremost is that Ra insists that the choice of paths by which to take and indeed must be made to "graduate" from this 3rd dimension, is the choice to serve others or serve the self. To serve is a negative concept in most cases. To subjugate or to be under the rule of another self. I do not believe that this word was chosen without thought, because without a doubt all of this material and each word is chosen for its precise essence, in order to lessen any chance we might misunderstand the concepts provided.
Underlines added by myself. Definition of Serve If you read the multitude of definitions given you will see there are neutral, positive, and negative connotations according to the view common on this forum.
When my ex broke her back, a lifted her to use the bathroom, carried her to bed, often adjusted her when she awoke screaming in pain when she inadvertently moved in the wrong way while sleeping, built her a wheelchair ramp, and many other things. When my grandfather was dying a few years ago, I helped him to the bathroom, helped him walk when he was no longer strong enough, I picked him up when he fell, I drove him to the store, I made calls and appointments for him. When my mother died recently, I was with her every day I could in the hospital, brought her clothes and food, checked her vitals when needed, and adjusted her oxygen, and made sure wherever she went the doctors understood her history and what was going on. Which one of those was not a service?
When a child is born and the parents, feed, and clothe, and shelter, and teach the child, what of those is not a service?
When you admire someone and voluntarily do their will, that is also a service.
Quote:I will say that to serve others by being available to fill a need, aid in anyway or give an ear or lend a shoulder are always natural for those who love, but this choice of service is not accurate and thereby something is amiss.
What is amiss in your examples are they are shallow. While being a sympathetic ear is important, it is a low investment type of service. It reminds me of the saying, A friend is who you call when you are in jail, a best friend is in the cell with you.
Quote:The more accurate choice is more accurately stated as to accept Love or deny it. The choice is not in service it is in whether we accept the power of the creators love or destroy it as a weakness. Its a choice of dominance and power over others or a choice to love all, including the self.
The negative polarity do not love, not even the self.
The 4th density is the density of love. It is where the STO and STS graduate to. Love cannot be denied. If a person denies love altogether they will never graduate either way. The creator loves all of the creation, whether you accept or deny the love of the creator toward you is irrelevant. The density of love is about exploring the manifestations of love in relation to the self and other self. This can be done by directing love outward, or inward. If the negative does not love at all, they would not graduate.
Love is not what we think it is. We have a very skewed concept of love in our world. It is most closely tied to romantic love, then secondly to familial love. However none of these represent the force of love in an accurate way and these are facets of the entire concept. I am still exploring the concept myself and do not want to say anything wrong, but I know that what most people mean when they say love only encompasses a small fraction of the concept as explored in the major densities.
Quote:I think about the ancient flood myths of the Bible and the older Summerian, and how they are so very similar accept in the smallest but most significant parts. Control or love?
Remember, the counterfeit is sometimes so good, so close to perfect that it requires an expert to see its small but significant imperfection and renders it worthless.
This material has absolutely been a blessing this is truth but I must consider if perhaps I have also been led astray in order to cause me to actually choose service and subjugation in my next life.
We do not have to be energy or kinetic. Energy is literally wrapped in the fields of potentials that surround us everywhere. They are flowing up into us from earth and down into us from our creator and all of creation in every moment.
To be fully integrated in mind, body and soul means to integrate all three data sets of information, into our the whole of ourselves. The body and its emotions, which all come from love, must be accepted and felt in the body, along with the mind and spirit if we are to be whole. We can not know self without love. We must learn to become love, to accept all its forms and only then are we able to make wiser choices. We cannot make sound decisions if we are not utilizing all of the data available to us. To deny Gods creative love is to deny the self, ungodly and dare I say not the smartest of choices. However, its not for me to judge, only to balance the 3 inputs flowing in and around me. Perhaps the best I can do for my negative selves is point out the fear and send love and prayers to them. Also forgive myself for the times that I taught them that love hurts and cannot be trusted. Love did not let them down, we did...I did. Then again their perception is of love is way off the mark too. GOD...Remind them one last time what love feels like before they have to choose in their next life. This I insist is granted.
I ask you all to consider my thoughts and perhaps I have missed something vital in my concepts here that you might help me see more clearly
Believe it or not, there are known counterfeits that have sold for a fortune, simply because the artistic skill involved in making an accurate counterfeit can be breathtaking itself.
You can serve by force, or you can serve by choice. That is the fundamental difference in STO and STS. STS forces others to serve them, meanwhile the one being forced forces those below and so on, while plotting and waiting for an opportunity to usurp the higher position. STO serves out of a genuine desire to provide for others in a manner that is congruent with their own talents and inclinations.
Your ideas on integration and choices and how to progress are your own and they seem well thought out and coherent.
Now to return to the top so to speak. Love is a force of nature. It is one of the primal distortions of the creator. Love/Light, Light/Love; these are more real in our physical world than matter itself. How we interact with the experience we gain is where control comes in. Control is not the inverse of love, that is light. Acceptance is the inverse of control. Control/Accept, Accept/Control; these concepts are intertwined just as learn/teach and teach/learn are intertwined. The most controlling parents can also be the most loving, but fear causes them to control their child's life. The parents who afford their children the most freedom can also be unloving.
As stated by Ra, the fundamental difference between STO and STS is that the former accepts when confronted with catalyst, while STS controls. STO accepts the self, STS controls the self. STO accepts other selves, STS controls other selves. STO loves the self and other selves, STS only loves the self. Service being only true service when it is freely given, STS can never freely give service to an other self, as all are insignificant compared to self. The only true service can be to the self in that case. Whereas STO can freely give service in any manner which is congruent with their own desire to serve others.