05-31-2021, 07:14 AM
@Dtris, thanks for bringing those quotes. The view I described, in my understanding, does not contradict any of those three quotes -- but if I have missed something, it would be very good to have that pointed out. Key to understanding my overall angle is that complete unity is, logically, something which must be outside of space and time, since space and time are examples of structures that divide up what's inside them.
Everything in space as one thing, is a thing which is not located anywhere in space, and likewise everything in time at once, is not found at any moment in time. And the same for any other dimensions that may be involved in terms of things being spread out in them. Unity basically means either lack of structure or the transcending of structure.
So the idea that 7D leads to complete unity at its end is not in conflict with the idea that a creation may fill up infinities of time, space, and other dimensions, so that individual beings come and go "forever" within it. Provided that the process of moving through the densities is distinct from the process of moving through the dimension of linear time, that is.
Ra describes linear time durations for many things, while e.g. the Cassiopaeans emphasize that linear time as experienced in 3D doesn't apply beyond 3D, and that time durations as we understand them in 3D are only metaphorical when considering higher densities. Ra's descriptions of time/space alongside space/time and more are suggestive of this, but doesn't make it really clear. The existence of a structuring dimension somewhat like time even in 6D doesn't necessarily mean it's experienced the way it is in 3D, and the differences between 3D and 6D seem to rule out that 6D is anything at all like a human existence. Ra claims 6D is not individual, but that doesn't mean it's full unity either, rather the descriptions seem to leave logical room only for an in-between thing easy to picture abstractly but impossible to imagine concretely.
Perhaps the creation can be likened to an inside-out house, which contains everything on the "outer" inside. The "inner" outside, on the other hand, transcends space, time, etc., which are all found on the "outer" inside. It's also like a little garden in which the creator is, surrounded by it all. Except that in terms of the cosmology, "it all" is presumably held in the mind of that creator.
The way I put it together with the visual metaphor earlier of a spiraling motion where the center is unity from 7D and the outer edge is 1D, to accommodate endless cycling and octaves, goes with very abstract and not-at-all-possible to concretely imagine ideas which to me seem to unify what's in those three Ra quotes. However, find a single clear-cut logical contradiction and it's demolished.
Everything in space as one thing, is a thing which is not located anywhere in space, and likewise everything in time at once, is not found at any moment in time. And the same for any other dimensions that may be involved in terms of things being spread out in them. Unity basically means either lack of structure or the transcending of structure.
So the idea that 7D leads to complete unity at its end is not in conflict with the idea that a creation may fill up infinities of time, space, and other dimensions, so that individual beings come and go "forever" within it. Provided that the process of moving through the densities is distinct from the process of moving through the dimension of linear time, that is.
Ra describes linear time durations for many things, while e.g. the Cassiopaeans emphasize that linear time as experienced in 3D doesn't apply beyond 3D, and that time durations as we understand them in 3D are only metaphorical when considering higher densities. Ra's descriptions of time/space alongside space/time and more are suggestive of this, but doesn't make it really clear. The existence of a structuring dimension somewhat like time even in 6D doesn't necessarily mean it's experienced the way it is in 3D, and the differences between 3D and 6D seem to rule out that 6D is anything at all like a human existence. Ra claims 6D is not individual, but that doesn't mean it's full unity either, rather the descriptions seem to leave logical room only for an in-between thing easy to picture abstractly but impossible to imagine concretely.
Perhaps the creation can be likened to an inside-out house, which contains everything on the "outer" inside. The "inner" outside, on the other hand, transcends space, time, etc., which are all found on the "outer" inside. It's also like a little garden in which the creator is, surrounded by it all. Except that in terms of the cosmology, "it all" is presumably held in the mind of that creator.
The way I put it together with the visual metaphor earlier of a spiraling motion where the center is unity from 7D and the outer edge is 1D, to accommodate endless cycling and octaves, goes with very abstract and not-at-all-possible to concretely imagine ideas which to me seem to unify what's in those three Ra quotes. However, find a single clear-cut logical contradiction and it's demolished.
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