I understand how putting oneself in the other's shoes is beneficial to the seeker. I like to think I do this when presented with different point of views.
I am rather pondering more about what comes next? Once you have done that and you got all you could from the other point of view?
The example given here is a bit extreme, because it talks about point of views so diametrically opposed, but I believe it still applies to our current discussion.
This is in relationship with this other quote from Ra: "...No more than this can you do for your portion of the Creator is as it is and your experience and offering of experience, to be valuable, needs be more and more a perfect representation of who you truly are..."
There comes a point when all is said and done. Movement is no longer wished on any sides, if it was even wished to begin with.
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If we accept that we cannot know then the "agree to disagree" is a fine solution, since we know that we cannot know the truth of our others. Everyone then recognizes the validity of the other point of views and closure can be achieved without consensus.
What if your other does not accept that we cannot know and continues to drill "the" Truth inside your mind?
That is akin to the thought-war Ra talks about. I am not interested in warring and it seems the Confederation is not interested in warring either. Yet they find themselves without a choice in order for their experience to remain valuable to the Creator. In this, STS is successful in abridging the freewill of the Confederation.
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I am rather pondering more about what comes next? Once you have done that and you got all you could from the other point of view?
The example given here is a bit extreme, because it talks about point of views so diametrically opposed, but I believe it still applies to our current discussion.
Ra 25.6 Wrote:Questioner: Could you amplify the meaning of what you said by “failure to accept that which is given?”
Ra: I am Ra. At the level of time/space at which this takes place in the form of what you may call thought-war, the most accepting and loving energy would be to so love those who wished to manipulate that those entities were surrounded, engulfed, and transformed by positive energies.
This, however, being a battle of equals, the Confederation is aware that it cannot, on equal footing, allow itself to be manipulated in order to remain purely positive, for then though pure it would not be of any consequence, having been placed by the so-called powers of darkness under the heel, as you may say.
It is thus that those who deal with this thought-war must be defensive rather than accepting in order to preserve their usefulness in service to others. Thusly, they cannot accept fully what the Orion Confederation wishes to give, that being enslavement. Thusly, some polarity is lost due to this friction and both sides, if you will, must then regroup.
It has not been fruitful for either side. The only consequence which has been helpful is a balancing of the energies available to this planet so that these energies have less necessity to be balanced in this space/time, thus lessening the chances of planetary annihilation.
This is in relationship with this other quote from Ra: "...No more than this can you do for your portion of the Creator is as it is and your experience and offering of experience, to be valuable, needs be more and more a perfect representation of who you truly are..."
There comes a point when all is said and done. Movement is no longer wished on any sides, if it was even wished to begin with.
--
If we accept that we cannot know then the "agree to disagree" is a fine solution, since we know that we cannot know the truth of our others. Everyone then recognizes the validity of the other point of views and closure can be achieved without consensus.
What if your other does not accept that we cannot know and continues to drill "the" Truth inside your mind?
That is akin to the thought-war Ra talks about. I am not interested in warring and it seems the Confederation is not interested in warring either. Yet they find themselves without a choice in order for their experience to remain valuable to the Creator. In this, STS is successful in abridging the freewill of the Confederation.
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