04-20-2021, 10:16 AM
(04-19-2021, 07:30 PM)Great Central Sun Wrote:(04-19-2021, 06:23 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: Jesus Christ. A whole deep diving thread on karma and metaphysics is not needed to explain this saying.
Just say it's a saying used to hold people with supposedly good intentions accountable for bad decisions that harm the world around them, despite their supposed intentions. Then point out that Gem is taking this too literally. Hell, I'm autistic and even I didn't take that quote at face value.
Hell is subjective Gem. Most people who go to "hell" after they die do so because there is nothing left once they die but the dreaming awareness. That dreaming awareness, no longer held back by the laws of physics, dreams up whatever it wants, which could be heaven or hell. Most peoples' dreaming awareness is atrophied from lack of use, so in order to understand the dream, it must be strengthened which could take a bit, as they get acclimated to the dream they are dreaming. No matter how "eternal" the place seems however, I assure you they do not stay there forever. Just until they understand the meaning of the dream.
Maybe that's exactly what was needed. How can we know what is needed until it comes out?
If a "bad" person like Hitler thinks they are doing good and are really doing bad, how can a "good" person know they are really doing good?
You can't know. So then, what are your purest intentions?
If your decision causes a little pain then it is catalyst, use it to further polarize. See your own foolishness and accept it.
I could say, then no big deal. But it is a big deal when you are in the throws of being hurt because of your own foolishness. You can still use the pain to gain wisdom, if nothing else, about yourself and well, your foolishness.
Hilter had many problems. He is not the best example. But yeah, he may have thought what he was doing was a good thing and this is where the problem lies for him perhaps. Because if he were truthful with himself, he would have realized it was a way to enslave many and used that for the exploration into his inner desires toward power. If we use this as an example it already sounds confusing in which he was confused according to the material. A man who may think he does good but in his heart he desires to take slaves= confused entity.