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    LeiwoUnion (Offline)

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    04-11-2021, 04:43 PM
    (04-11-2021, 06:22 AM)Indiken Wrote:
    (04-11-2021, 05:42 AM)LeiwoUnion Wrote: "I am a bit surprised that people give their time freely and generously."
    This is an ultimate gift in 3rd density and people should be more careful how they gift their time away. Still, it happened, here, on this more awakened than average forum; now where's the catch?  Wink

    "I have a guilt. In one of the comments it was said that the forum is "littered"(trash I think?) with personal experiences."

    I'd say littered with flowers, and finding this place is akin finding a hidden meadow deep in the forest.

    "It is mysterious for me why the thread gravitated from the explanation of "allien" phenomena in my or others life to help the "Indiken" thread."
    There is always deep meaning in mystery; one must actively decrypt it or it will stay as such. It has been said that mystery titillates one's curiosity, thus providing the necessary catalyst towards exploration, knowing and eventually truth.

    "I do not like word "vehicle" to describe the body. From their perspective it is valid - one change it like a car. I think this gives the hint to people that body is not important. I think it is important. You have to respect it. It is crucial to experience body and body is crucial to experience. The reason I like to call body a body, is because I am not past the body experiences. To call body simply a "vehicle" is to lessen the catalyst, so to speak. Or do I misunderstand the concepts?"
    Vehicle functions only if it is cared for, maintained properly; you already figured it out. The concept of a 'vehicle' is neutral, the naming activity of 'vehicle' is irrelevant, so if you manage to move past the crude physical thought/name of a vehicle, you'll see that 'a vehicle', especially our body, is much deeper concept. Love and Light, Indiken, and godspeed, I can see that you're on your first pages of your conscious journey here. Remember to have fun among all the confusion!

    I have very many questions to your reply, but I will ask only the essential.

    What is this deeper concept of the vehicle? I did not understand.

    Be well.
    AL.
    One such concept is that the name you use to describe your body does not hold true meaning. When you close your eyes and become aware of your 'body-vessel', it is done as a sort of mind construct, shall I say, a thought without labels and restrictions of language. How would you speak of this 'concept'? It can be almost impossible as the concept loses its wholeness and becomes distorted the moment it is released into 3D as, as Ra would call it, a sound vibratory complex; it's not the same anymore. The significance of all this is the understanding that rises as one realizes that the apparently surface level physical concepts such as 'the body' do not stop at that superficial layer; only one's thought/mind can stop there. This may all sound very confusing, esoteric, and perhaps even slightly ridiculous depending on one's development in assimilating metaphysical topics. However, the mere conscious act of seeking or trying to look through this aforementioned superficial layer, even without belief, will begin a chain of catalysts that can help reaching even deeper understandings, if only they are desired. It doesn't matter, if you like some naming label or don't; when you deal with this emotion, or balance it, it likely falls away in a fell swoop of understanding and indifference. Would I call the 6th density body a vehicle? a light thingy? etheric body? or even a body at all? I dunno.. In my minds eye the concept is quite clear but with language.. I tend to call it all sorts of things depending on situation. So, do I even really truly know? Of course not, as understanding is in the end not of this density (3rd), but what I do know is that it is irrelevant to focus on the naming activity at all. This is my understanding.

    And Indiken, no matter how many questions you may ask, and you may ask any number, either here or in private messaging, I will answer them with an honest heart and the best of my ability. Heart

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    A question for the advanced - by Indiken - 04-07-2021, 01:01 AM
    RE: A question for the advanced - by J.W. - 04-07-2021, 01:44 AM
    RE: A question for the advanced - by J.W. - 04-07-2021, 01:54 AM
    RE: A question for the advanced - by Indiken - 04-07-2021, 02:11 AM
    RE: A question for the advanced - by Ymarsakar - 04-07-2021, 02:13 AM
    RE: A question for the advanced - by zedro - 04-07-2021, 02:17 AM
    RE: A question for the advanced - by Indiken - 04-07-2021, 02:37 AM
    RE: A question for the advanced - by zedro - 04-07-2021, 02:41 AM
    RE: A question for the advanced - by Sacred Fool - 04-07-2021, 03:07 AM
    RE: A question for the advanced - by Indiken - 04-07-2021, 03:54 AM
    RE: A question for the advanced - by Ymarsakar - 04-07-2021, 04:19 AM
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    RE: A question for the advanced - by Indiken - 04-07-2021, 05:10 AM
    RE: A question for the advanced - by Ymarsakar - 04-07-2021, 06:52 AM
    RE: A question for the advanced - by Indiken - 04-07-2021, 07:14 AM
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    RE: A question for the advanced - by Indiken - 04-07-2021, 05:05 PM
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    RE: A question for the advanced - by Indiken - 04-08-2021, 12:13 AM
    RE: A question for the advanced - by jafar - 04-08-2021, 01:43 AM
    RE: A question for the advanced - by Indiken - 04-08-2021, 03:37 AM
    RE: A question for the advanced - by Sacred Fool - 04-08-2021, 04:47 AM
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    RE: A question for the advanced - by Indiken - 04-10-2021, 03:52 AM
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    RE: A question for the advanced - by Indiken - 04-10-2021, 03:02 PM
    RE: A question for the advanced - by Ohr Ein Sof - 04-10-2021, 06:41 PM
    RE: A question for the advanced - by Indiken - 04-10-2021, 02:43 PM
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