There is no conflict in between mind, body and the spirit. Each of them must be sufficiently developed, connected enough and must be used enough to make any spiritual advancement.
A lot of the conversations here try to discover the mysteries of existence. Not uncover the secret zen of 'just being'. That kind of being is specific to every person and it is questionable that it can be taught.
There is the additional complication that this planet's social/individual distortions being too complicated, in relation to self and other selves - as Ra mentions. This necessitates looking at things with a sharp clear mind. For, you see, there are even people who believe in two contradictory things at the same time and propose them in two parts of the same sentence, seeing no problem with doing that. Without even getting into the immense mess of lies and disinformation that is propagated for profit or belief.
So, even to untangle the mess of the societal complex at its surface and look at things from a simpler perspective of entities' interactions based on fundamental motives, noticeable understanding is needed.
Of course, one can spend many lifetimes without paying attention and then suddenly one day during one incarnation everything may fall into place. But that's not an efficient way to do things. Only efficient for the entity which is very suitable for that kind of path.
And the society is passing through a very difficult time in which people are distressed, needing food, housing, healthcare - the very basic needs. Those wont get solved via zen and 'being'. For even reaching for middle chakras, lower chakras must be safe and functioning.
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Moreover - some of us want to be looking through the window and taking in all the sights during our journey. Not looking towards the seat in the front and suddenly waking up at the destination.
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A lot of the conversations here try to discover the mysteries of existence. Not uncover the secret zen of 'just being'. That kind of being is specific to every person and it is questionable that it can be taught.
There is the additional complication that this planet's social/individual distortions being too complicated, in relation to self and other selves - as Ra mentions. This necessitates looking at things with a sharp clear mind. For, you see, there are even people who believe in two contradictory things at the same time and propose them in two parts of the same sentence, seeing no problem with doing that. Without even getting into the immense mess of lies and disinformation that is propagated for profit or belief.
So, even to untangle the mess of the societal complex at its surface and look at things from a simpler perspective of entities' interactions based on fundamental motives, noticeable understanding is needed.
Of course, one can spend many lifetimes without paying attention and then suddenly one day during one incarnation everything may fall into place. But that's not an efficient way to do things. Only efficient for the entity which is very suitable for that kind of path.
And the society is passing through a very difficult time in which people are distressed, needing food, housing, healthcare - the very basic needs. Those wont get solved via zen and 'being'. For even reaching for middle chakras, lower chakras must be safe and functioning.
...
Moreover - some of us want to be looking through the window and taking in all the sights during our journey. Not looking towards the seat in the front and suddenly waking up at the destination.
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