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    03-23-2021, 06:47 PM
    (03-23-2021, 11:47 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: <B>Technically speaking, if we have an inherent bias toward kindness, it is also counter-productive for polarization.</b>

    Why is there an inherent bias toward kindness?

    If a person is kind, can hell not be paved with good intentions?

    Like I said, the material described this as one path being more efficient than the other.

    (03-23-2021, 11:47 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: "To really make a choice, you need to be aware to a great extent of the two potentials."

    Wouldn't actions speak louder than words and concepts?

    Actions do not define one's intent, I believe everything can be done in multiple ways, especially in regard to one's intent.

    (03-23-2021, 11:47 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: "Positive 4D and negative 4D are quite unlike one another and in both cases the potential to experience the other density is somewhat forsaken (at least for a long time). "

    In what sense are they unlike or like each other?

    What do those densities mean to you?

    To quote the material, 4D positive is not of disharmony within self. It is not of disharmony within peoples. It is not within limits of possibility to cause disharmony in any way. it is a plane wherein individual differences are pronounced although automatically harmonized by group consensus.

    I believe negative 4D is the opposite, as the sense of personal separation is emphasized instead.

    (03-23-2021, 11:47 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: "If an action is automatic because of an in-built bias, then it is not polarizing"

    There was a part in the Ra archives that said some logoi did not allow free will to be present, so the natural default option was STO polarization over a very very long time. They considered this uninteresting or boring to the Creator, as the end result was already known and not very exciting. SOrta like reading a wikipedia spoiler of the plot of a movie.

    The Hidden Hand and Era testimonies, also said the Logos of this world, YHVH (the ancient God of Mars/Hebrews), initially started this place without initiating free will. A garden of eden in which people did not know good and evil, is not polarizing yes.

    The other polarity was simply not yet thought of. So growth in 3D, albeit extremely long compared to what we experience, was still about personal growth toward a desire for service. The experience was simply not very vivid and the safety was total.

    The material does say certain Logoi now move back through time to incorporate free will as a foundation of their creation. Not really sure I'd take Hidden Hand for granted that this is our case, nor do I think YHVH is our Logos and more like some random social memory complex that got to interact with our planet like many others. YHVH seem to have played a more central role than some others though in their involvement with us humans, but that still does not make them our Logos in any way.
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    The tendency towards “black magic” - by sillypumpkins - 03-22-2021, 06:06 PM
    RE: The tendency towards “black magic” - by Ming the Merciful - 03-22-2021, 07:42 PM
    RE: The tendency towards “black magic” - by Patrick - 03-22-2021, 09:02 PM
    RE: The tendency towards “black magic” - by Ymarsakar - 03-22-2021, 10:06 PM
    RE: The tendency towards “black magic” - by jafar - 03-23-2021, 01:54 AM
    RE: The tendency towards “black magic” - by Sacred Fool - 03-23-2021, 02:26 AM
    RE: The tendency towards “black magic” - by Minyatur - 03-23-2021, 09:49 AM
    RE: The tendency towards “black magic” - by sillypumpkins - 03-23-2021, 09:56 AM
    RE: The tendency towards “black magic” - by Minyatur - 03-23-2021, 10:06 AM
    RE: The tendency towards “black magic” - by sillypumpkins - 03-23-2021, 10:10 AM
    RE: The tendency towards “black magic” - by Minyatur - 03-23-2021, 10:16 AM
    RE: The tendency towards “black magic” - by Ymarsakar - 03-23-2021, 10:20 AM
    RE: The tendency towards “black magic” - by Minyatur - 03-23-2021, 10:36 AM
    RE: The tendency towards “black magic” - by Ymarsakar - 03-23-2021, 11:47 AM
    RE: The tendency towards “black magic” - by Ohr Ein Sof - 03-23-2021, 05:37 PM
    RE: The tendency towards “black magic” - by Ymarsakar - 03-23-2021, 06:01 PM
    RE: The tendency towards “black magic” - by Ohr Ein Sof - 03-24-2021, 05:03 PM
    RE: The tendency towards “black magic” - by Minyatur - 03-23-2021, 06:47 PM
    RE: The tendency towards “black magic” - by jafar - 03-25-2021, 02:08 AM
    RE: The tendency towards “black magic” - by Minyatur - 03-25-2021, 10:42 AM
    RE: The tendency towards “black magic” - by zedro - 03-25-2021, 02:54 PM
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    RE: The tendency towards “black magic” - by Ymarsakar - 03-25-2021, 07:07 AM
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    RE: The tendency towards “black magic” - by Ymarsakar - 03-25-2021, 12:47 PM
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