a question on conspiracy theories and how to deal

[zedro]

Yes, it is obvious, isn't it?  But then, you've chosen which side of the bifurcated system you wish to be on, so you look at things through that prism.

You are on the side of personal liberty and sovereignty.

Those on the other side, are trusting in the "system" to do the right thing, and willfully defer their power to those in charge.

Choices have consequences, and it's very difficult for an individual to change which side they are on right now since the deception is so strong - you either see it and are repelled by it, or can't see it at all.

True, I tend to forget that it's not necessarily (or at all) about understanding but rather values (unprocessed as they may be). For some 'slavery' is a choice, and not even regarded/recognized as such. It took me awhile to fully understand the brilliance of Orwell's 1984 seemingly paradoxical slogans, which to my initial instinct felt like obvious dichotomies/falsehoods designed to torture people intellectually, but in reality to others they may actually be simple conceptual truths:

WAR IS PEACE (without war there is a lack of social cohesion, so war creates unity)
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY (slavery creates actual freedom as you abdicate responsibility to a higher authority)
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH (strength is drawn from avoiding the confusion stemming from ones own incompetent ideals)

Two people can live in entirely dualistic realities in which these have different meanings, if only at the subconscious level. The tricky part is when actual historical realities diverge to support such conscious states.

(Note it's been ages since I read 1984, that interpretation is just what resonates with me right now)

Great job, zedro. You really pissed me off with your post.

Maybe some ill-willed individuals may benefit from such false dichotomizations and affirming the opposites as means to perpetrate sub-optimal social organization levels, due to incompetence in being able to figure out better possibilities amidst the Infinite that we all live in.

To state that 'life is death and death is life' is a typical half-baked pseudo-spiritual fallacy, coated with some philosophical crap to appeal more to non-thinking individuals.

Even more so detrimental is to state that war is peace. What a load of bisonshit.

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH (strength is drawn from avoiding the confusion stemming from ones own incompetent ideals)

Now, you must be joking... right? You can't be serious in this motherfucker. Ignorance is strength? TO WHOM, for God's sake? Your ignorance benefits whom? And how much so, compared to your intelligence?

A nescient modern cattle, willfully and ignorantly accepting the programming perpetrated by the farmers — has it any strength? If so, what kind of strength, and who benefits from it? The farmers, or the nescient cattle?

The way the phrase is put may turn the lukewarm or the undeveloped into deliberate numbskulls destitute of their own volition to choose to approach perfection.

Do you know what this moronic pseudo-reasoning tells you, deep down? Be an idiot and you'll be strong. In other words, have fewer tools to choose (so you may not upset the farmers) and the belief of strength will be provided to you.

What a load of crap. I expected deeper reasoning to come from you, zedro.

Ummm...please re-read my post but with the bias that the Orwell quotes are from my polar opposing point of view. It's exactly the opposite of what I believe....I'm still who you expected me to be (well, except you don't like my narrative style apparently )