It always seemed to me that DWs (and by extension all of Divine Cosmos') as well as now this thread's focus on the discussion is somewhat misdirected, or at least overly restricted. The focus of these discussions has always seemed to me to revolve around what happens to the body. Does it die, does it transmute, does it accelerate to light speed and poke through to time/space, does it continue to live on 3D Earth, can it live on 4D Earth, what are dual-activated bodies, how long is a generation, etc., etc., etc.
A much more interesting question to me, is what happens to the mind, and even the spirit of the mind/body/spirit complex. I believe that considering this could shed some light on the question of the body.
Consider, for example, the fact that in 4D (as well as in time/space after death) the veil is removed. I think that this fact more than any other points to the profound difference between 3D and 4D. Living as we do in our 3D consciousness, it is extremely difficult to fathom the effect that this could have on our perspectives about everything. This is actually one of my primary reasons for rejecting the concept of instantaneous ascension. Because if it does involve an instantaneous awareness of all of our past lives, victories, failures, trespassings, trials, and tribulations, it would seem to me that the 3D mind would quite likely and quite literally explode.
I found it interesting that in one of DWs arguments, he states that most "gradualists" probably have an unresolved issue with death and are not ready to let go of life. I actually see it a little differently. To me, most people that support the instantaneous ascension theory (note that I avoid creating the label of "instantaneousists", which in my opinion only serves to separate us), seem to be too tied to their existing mind and ego, and want to support a scenario that allows them to remain largely, intellectually, and mentally "in-tact" as it were.
In my opinion, the "I" that will exist in 4D will actually be not unlike a stand alone social memory complex, in that it will have access to the distilled experiences of all of "my" past incarnations, that will have already been accepted and integrated into a "mental consensus" of the associated experiences. I find it laughably absurd that anyone thinks that "they" will awake one morning in a new 4D world with their 3D sensibilities. (As a simple example consider the Thread under Divine Cosmos' Law of One forum, that is entitled "Upcoming 4D Harvest... Will I be able to keep my guitars?", which is a veritable bonfire for the vanities of those involved in the discussion).
So, in short, I say: "Who cares how long it takes and what happens to the body?" What is magnitudes more pertinent and more fascinating, IMHO, is what happens to the mind, and what is it really like living in space/time without a veil for the first time?
It was my consideration of this question that cemented my disinterest in the other.
Any and all thought are welcomed,
3D Sunset
A much more interesting question to me, is what happens to the mind, and even the spirit of the mind/body/spirit complex. I believe that considering this could shed some light on the question of the body.
Consider, for example, the fact that in 4D (as well as in time/space after death) the veil is removed. I think that this fact more than any other points to the profound difference between 3D and 4D. Living as we do in our 3D consciousness, it is extremely difficult to fathom the effect that this could have on our perspectives about everything. This is actually one of my primary reasons for rejecting the concept of instantaneous ascension. Because if it does involve an instantaneous awareness of all of our past lives, victories, failures, trespassings, trials, and tribulations, it would seem to me that the 3D mind would quite likely and quite literally explode.
I found it interesting that in one of DWs arguments, he states that most "gradualists" probably have an unresolved issue with death and are not ready to let go of life. I actually see it a little differently. To me, most people that support the instantaneous ascension theory (note that I avoid creating the label of "instantaneousists", which in my opinion only serves to separate us), seem to be too tied to their existing mind and ego, and want to support a scenario that allows them to remain largely, intellectually, and mentally "in-tact" as it were.
In my opinion, the "I" that will exist in 4D will actually be not unlike a stand alone social memory complex, in that it will have access to the distilled experiences of all of "my" past incarnations, that will have already been accepted and integrated into a "mental consensus" of the associated experiences. I find it laughably absurd that anyone thinks that "they" will awake one morning in a new 4D world with their 3D sensibilities. (As a simple example consider the Thread under Divine Cosmos' Law of One forum, that is entitled "Upcoming 4D Harvest... Will I be able to keep my guitars?", which is a veritable bonfire for the vanities of those involved in the discussion).
So, in short, I say: "Who cares how long it takes and what happens to the body?" What is magnitudes more pertinent and more fascinating, IMHO, is what happens to the mind, and what is it really like living in space/time without a veil for the first time?
It was my consideration of this question that cemented my disinterest in the other.
Any and all thought are welcomed,
3D Sunset