(01-03-2021, 05:06 PM)ada Wrote: Hello,
Firstly I want apologize if this thread or it's title may seem off to you. My thought and feeling is to share my own experience in hope to offer some insight or help to others who might go/have gone through something similar.
So I've experienced these type of dreams a few times, and they are very unpleasant both to mind and spirit.
I will try and explain what makes them so particular and why I chose these words to describe them.
The psychic part is that they "appear" to have a prophetic or a knowing quality beyond yourself, an outer source that tries to out-know you/your experience.
The manipulative part is that this outer source tries to subdue you into believing and fearing specific thought forms/ideas in many steps forward, sometimes linking to previous experiences/ideas to prevent as much free will and self thought.
The dreams part is that it happens during a dream.
Hi Ada..
I had experienced 'such dream' and I usually call it 'flying dream'.
It's not necessarily unpleasant sometimes it's very very pleasant.
I've shared a glimpse of my experience on the other thread.
A member on this forum recently mentioned to me that such dream is called 'astral dream' or 'astral projection'.
Based on the things that I read so far it might fit the description of what I've experienced.
What kind of 'experience' or usually I call it 'realm' that we ends up 'dreaming' in, or perhaps in context of 'astral projection', that we're projecting into, it depends on our own 'state of mind'. Some people also call this as the 'frequency of our vibration'. When we're angry, stressed out, tired, sad etc.. the vibration become low, if it's sound it become like a bass... When we're happy, pleasant, joyful, thankful our vibration become high, if it's sound it become more 'treblish' and we will 'project' the consciousness to more happy and beautiful realm. Thus it's not 'always' fearful or negative...
Initially I only think that this is merely a 'fantasy dream', until I found out a painter by the name of Jurgen Ziewe.
He has been 'astral projecting' not through sleeping like I did, but through meditation.
And I saw exactly in 'my flying dream' the imagery or scenery of what he draws / visualize.
The beautiful realm, the abstract realm and also the dark realm...
You can check out his video here.
https://youtu.be/brVgbWJix6Y
Now I truly believe that this is not merely my own fantasy and can be categorized as 'shared experience'.
And anyone is truly capable of experiencing it, they just sometimes do not aware of it.
And I think the subject is quite misleading, the 'dream' is not 'manipulative' at all which has negative connotation in meanings, most of the time the dream is more of 'revealing'.